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Khilafat Waqt ka Taqaza hai!
The Government is squeezing out the last drop of blood from the masses by purchasing oil at Rs 20 per liter and selling it at an exuberant price to the people. By consistently increasing oil prices the government is not only busy looting the lower and the middle class but also under the dictates of the IMF and the World Bank, she has left no stone unturned to sabotage local industry. In the last six years the government has robbed people of 289 billion rupees under the name of 'development surcharge' on oil and gas. Rather than controlling there extravagancies the government has adopted the policy of exterminating the poor to make alleviate poverty. In reality the capitalist economic system is the real cause of economic exploitation of the masses, which allows the resources to be monopolised by the few under the guise of privatisation. Islam considers Oil and Gas as public properties and the people are obliged to pay the extraction and distribution cost only. Islam also strictly prohibits to handover the management of these resources to an individual or a company. Today the Oil Advisory Committees has the right to decide the price of oil in Pakistan. The Messenger of Allah (saw) said:

"Muslims are partners in three things: in water, pastures and the fire" (Abu Dawud)

In the above Hadith "fire" stands for all type of energy resources, which includes oil, gas, electricity etc. Time has come that the people ejected these American viceroys, Musharraf and Shaukat Aziz, from their palaces and establish Khilafah Rashida.
M1Tanker
QUOTE(Khilafat Waqt ka Taqaza hai! @ Jul 26 2005, 07:41 PM)

"Muslims are partners in three things: in water, pastures and the fire" (Abu Dawud)

In the above Hadith "fire" stands for all type of energy resources, which includes oil, gas, electricity etc. Time has come that the people ejected these American viceroys, Musharraf and Shaukat Aziz, from their palaces and establish Khilafah Rashida.
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Let's take a poll of everyone in the world (6 billion? 7 Billion? Whatever) if they want the Khilafah in their country.

Somehow I doubt they will be many "yays."

For me, forget it.

Peace,
"Tanky"
Khilafat Waqt ka Taqaza hai!
There are NON muslims in the UK (Academics & Thinkers) that we have discussed with ...and after removing some miscoception that has been built by the media and corrupt politicians...and these people actually are intrigued and want to see the 'Caliphate'.

However, the more sensible ting would have been, if youhad stated lets take a poll of all the muslims almost 2 billion and see how many want the Shariah implemented i.e. a Khialafah system?

My question to you Mr. M1 Tanker, what is it of the Khialafah that you oppose and what is it of capitalism or communism you prefer?
M1Tanker
QUOTE(Khilafat Waqt ka Taqaza hai! @ Jul 26 2005, 08:12 PM)
There are NON muslims in the UK (Academics & Thinkers) that we have discussed with ...and after removing some miscoception that has been built by the media and corrupt politicians...and these people actually are intrigued and want to see the 'Caliphate'. 


Maybe one or two. Can you back this up witha link? Honestly, as much as I dislike the idea of a theocracy (of any sort), I am very interested in it. But, just because I'm interested in it, doesn't mean I ever want it to happen.

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However, the more sensible ting would have been, if youhad stated lets take a poll of all the muslims almost 2 billion and see how many want the Shariah implemented i.e. a Khialafah system?


Since it seems like the Muslim world and even the great communist giant (China) is moving toward capitalism, I doubt very many. The moderates outnumber the extremists in every religion. Extremists would want implimentation of Khilafah, moderates won't.

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My question to you Mr. M1 Tanker, what is it of the Khialafah that you oppose and what is it of capitalism or communism you prefer?


Please, call me "Tanky," all my friends do. I oppose government that is not at least partly influenced by the people. I believe in the evolution of government so it can change with time and public perception. I also believe that without capitalism the world would not be as advanced as it is. Capitalism breeds innovation. People are innovative because they get something out of it. The more they work, they better off they are. Take out the reward in this situation and there is no incentive to work.

And just for the record, communism is not for me either smile.gif

Peace,
"Tanky"
Khilafat Waqt ka Taqaza hai!
ok, tanky :)

the evidence of a website is www.newcivilisation.com (click on the 'Ink Well' discussion)

I am NOT in favour of a Theocracy like yourself. Just coz Islam is portrayed a s a religion does not reduce it to a religion, it is an Ideology, and it just requires muslims to study it and understand it as an ideology. Islam has detailed how to buy and sell, what to own and not own, what type of cotracts to engage i, it details how to interact in society with men and women, how to deal with non muslims, how to engage in war, how to treat POW's. etc etc. No other 'Religion' does this...however ideologies do detaisl this, hence Islam is an ideology.
M1Tanker
QUOTE(Khilafat Waqt ka Taqaza hai! @ Jul 26 2005, 08:32 PM)
ok, tanky :)


That's better.

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I am NOT in favour of a Theocracy like yourself. Just coz Islam is portrayed a s a religion does not reduce it to a religion, it is an Ideology, and it just requires muslims to study it and understand it as an ideology.


I was raised in a Catholic and Jewish house but I espouse neither religion. I was interested in Islam when I was in Iraq so I read the Koran. While it may be a "blueprint for life" it is still an Islamic blueprint to life and in my book it's a theocracy even though the "president" isn't a cleric or a thug.

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Islam has detailed how to buy and sell, what to own and not own, what type of cotracts to engage i, it details how to interact in society with men and women, how to deal with non muslims, how to engage in war, how to treat POW's. etc etc.  No other 'Religion' does this...however ideologies do detaisl this, hence Islam is an ideology.


Yes, it does outline all of that, but why should I think that is correct? One of the reasons I dislike Catholics' beliefs is they say "just have faith" when you ask a hard question. I debated this with my Iraqi translators (with whom I became good friends and are nearly all killed) and they would say roughly the same thing.

Religious debate is not allowed on forum, so I will stop there before we go too far off topic.

Peace,
Tanky
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