http://www.pakobserver.net/200512/04/news/topstories15.asp
Govt may allow import of Indian cars
Amanullah Khan
Karachi—The government is considering to go for the import of Indian cars if the widening gap between supply and demand continued to persist allowing the middle man minting money in the local market.
The finance ministry, accepting the longstanding demand of local car dealers and importers in the budget 2005-06 allowed the import of old and used cars at the depreciation facility of 2 percent per month. However, the ministry maintained the condition of a luggage and gift scheme and the car dealers or the traders cannot import used and old vehicles directly.
Informed sources said those relevant authorities taking a close watch of the situation and might take decisions to ease the demand and supply situation by allowing import of cars even from India.
The gap between demand and supply was widening with each passing day. Last year the local automobile industry produced approximately one hundred thousand cars of various brands but those were not enough to meet the existing demand. A number of financing schemes readily available in the market backed up with easy and comfortable pay back installments, which is also fueling the demand.
It is however feared that the import of new and used cars under different schemes have its implications on the growth of vendor industry besides adversely affecting deletion strategy aiming at promoting the engineering sector within the country.
In 1999, Pakistan’s “deletion” programme (mandating the use of domestic inputs) encompassed 106 items. As of December 2004, 16 items in the auto and motorcycle industries remained to be deleted. For these 16 items, Pakistan had petitioned for a three years extension on its original December 31, 2003, deadline to eliminate all deletions. Being a developing country, Pakistan was required phasing out and withdrawing the trade related investment measures, inconsistent with the agreement on TRIMS, by the year 2000.
Full Version: Pakistan May Allow Import Of Indian Cars
This government needs a slap in the face. 
They restrict the flow of Qaulity vehicles like those from Japan and Germany, yet want to allow substandard Indian vehicles. No offence, but Indian cars don't compare to Mercedes and Toyota.
Why are they limiting the flow of these top end cars with high tarrifs but wanting to allow the flow of crapper cars?!
They restrict the flow of Qaulity vehicles like those from Japan and Germany, yet want to allow substandard Indian vehicles. No offence, but Indian cars don't compare to Mercedes and Toyota.
Why are they limiting the flow of these top end cars with high tarrifs but wanting to allow the flow of crapper cars?!
QUOTE(platinum786 @ Dec 4 2005, 08:48 AM)
This government needs a slap in the face.
They restrict the flow of Qaulity vehicles like those from Japan and Germany, yet want to allow substandard Indian vehicles. No offence, but Indian cars don't compare to Mercedes and Toyota.
Why are they limiting the flow of these top end cars with high tarrifs but wanting to allow the flow of crapper cars?!
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They restrict the flow of Qaulity vehicles like those from Japan and Germany, yet want to allow substandard Indian vehicles. No offence, but Indian cars don't compare to Mercedes and Toyota.
Why are they limiting the flow of these top end cars with high tarrifs but wanting to allow the flow of crapper cars?!
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Relax, India assembles Mercedes believe it or not, that aside Pakistan will soon be assembling BMW.
QUOTE(platinum786 @ Dec 4 2005, 09:48 AM)
This government needs a slap in the face.
They restrict the flow of Qaulity vehicles like those from Japan and Germany, yet want to allow substandard Indian vehicles. No offence, but Indian cars don't compare to Mercedes and Toyota.
Why are they limiting the flow of these top end cars with high tarrifs but wanting to allow the flow of crapper cars?!
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They restrict the flow of Qaulity vehicles like those from Japan and Germany, yet want to allow substandard Indian vehicles. No offence, but Indian cars don't compare to Mercedes and Toyota.
Why are they limiting the flow of these top end cars with high tarrifs but wanting to allow the flow of crapper cars?!
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Let the Pakistani consumer choose. Apply the same tariffs to Indian cars as to those from Mercedes. If as you say Pakistanis only drive Mercedes then there isnt a problem is there. Of course we in Europe cannot match Pakistan's taste in wanting to drive only mercedes, we make do with Indian cars
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Hyundai flags off first shipment to UK
Thursday, 01 December , 2005, 08:56
Chennai: Hyundai Motor India has sent its first shipment of 820 cars to the UK. It will export the Santro Xing branded as the Hyundai Amica, according to a company press release.
This consignment will be the first shipment of right hand drive cars to the European Union.
Hyundai Motor India exports left hand drive Santros to a number of European countries, including Italy, Germany, Greece, Spain and the Netherlands.
Hyundai Motor India (HMI) achieved a milestone when it crossed the 2,00,000th car mark in exports this year
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India’s first Euro IV-compliant cars to roll out by next month
R SRIVIDHYA
Posted online: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 at 0000 hours IST
MUMBAI, NOV 29: Good news for environmentalists on pollution front! Tata Motors will soon be the first vehicle maker in India to upgrade to Euro IV emission norms, when vehicles fitted with Euro IV petrol engines roll out of its Pune facility by the first week of December.
Production of Euro IV diesel vehicles will begin early in 2006, according to Rajiv Dube, senior vice-president, passenger car unit, Tata Motors. This also puts to rest the speculation that Tata Motors may use Euro IV engines from Fiat SpA, with which it has signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU), in September this year.
The development of Euro IV technology is essential at a stage when Tata Motors’ exports are at an all-time high.
The company has exported more than 10,000 cars since the beginning of this fiscal, making it the third largest exporter of cars in India after Hyundai and Maruti Udyog who use their Indian facility as an export base as well. Tata Motors exports its hatchback Indica and mid-sized Indigo cars to markets like Italy, Spain, South Africa, Nigeria and Turkey.
R SRIVIDHYA
Posted online: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 at 0000 hours IST
MUMBAI, NOV 29: Good news for environmentalists on pollution front! Tata Motors will soon be the first vehicle maker in India to upgrade to Euro IV emission norms, when vehicles fitted with Euro IV petrol engines roll out of its Pune facility by the first week of December.
Production of Euro IV diesel vehicles will begin early in 2006, according to Rajiv Dube, senior vice-president, passenger car unit, Tata Motors. This also puts to rest the speculation that Tata Motors may use Euro IV engines from Fiat SpA, with which it has signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU), in September this year.
The development of Euro IV technology is essential at a stage when Tata Motors’ exports are at an all-time high.
The company has exported more than 10,000 cars since the beginning of this fiscal, making it the third largest exporter of cars in India after Hyundai and Maruti Udyog who use their Indian facility as an export base as well. Tata Motors exports its hatchback Indica and mid-sized Indigo cars to markets like Italy, Spain, South Africa, Nigeria and Turkey.
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And of course talking of Toyota quality
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India gets Okuda’s quality praise
Sindhu Bhattacharya
Tuesday, November 29, 2005 03:57 IST
NEW DELHI: This should be music to the ears of Indian manufacturers. Hiroshi Okuda, chairman of Toyota Motor Corp, the world's most efficient automaker, now believes that Indian and Thai companies are closing the gap in quality.
The evidence he offers is compelling. Okuda, who is also chairman of the committee that hands out the coveted Deming prize for quality in Japan, said, "Last year, not a single Japanese company won the Deming, and a majority of winners were companies either from Thailand or India. Japan is standing still in terms of quality whereas Thai and Indian companies are moving ahead. My concern is that Thailand and India may overtake Japan on the quality issue."
Sindhu Bhattacharya
Tuesday, November 29, 2005 03:57 IST
NEW DELHI: This should be music to the ears of Indian manufacturers. Hiroshi Okuda, chairman of Toyota Motor Corp, the world's most efficient automaker, now believes that Indian and Thai companies are closing the gap in quality.
The evidence he offers is compelling. Okuda, who is also chairman of the committee that hands out the coveted Deming prize for quality in Japan, said, "Last year, not a single Japanese company won the Deming, and a majority of winners were companies either from Thailand or India. Japan is standing still in terms of quality whereas Thai and Indian companies are moving ahead. My concern is that Thailand and India may overtake Japan on the quality issue."
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Auto exports jump 33 pc in Apr-Oct
Monday, November 21, 2005
Automobile exports from India moved up 33 per cent in the seven months of this fiscal, boosted by healthy demand for two-wheelers and commercial vehicles even as car exports were relatively subdued witnessing single digit growth on account of negative growth in Maruti's numbers.
Auto exports in the April-October 2005 period stood at 4,71,511 units, up 33.4 per cent from 3,53,212 units in the same period last fiscal, according to figures released by Society of Indian Automobile Manufacturers (SIAM).
The growth was fuelled by a blazing 51 per cent increase in demand for motorcycles, the biggest contributor to export numbers.
Bike exports from the country till October this fiscal stood at 2,18,473 units as against 1,44,192 units for the same period last fiscal, with as many as eight of the nine manufacturers, including segment leaders Bajaj Auto and Hero Honda, experiencing higher demand.
Led by Honda Motorcycle and Scooter India, scooter/ scooterettee exports grew 42.1 per cent to 54,119 units from 38,077 units exported in April-October 2004, while moped shipments in the period stood at 28,305 units, an increase of 55.1 per cent. Overall, two-wheeler exports grew 50 per cent in the April-October this year, recording the highest growth in the auto industry.
Closely following the two-wheeler segment were commercial vehicles where foreign shipments grew 48.6 per cent to 21,635 units from 14,557 units in April-October 2004. Goods carriers in the Light Commercial Vehicle (LCV) segment led the charge in this segment at a growth of 91.9 per cent at 13,229 units.
On the car side, a 32 per cent decline in Maruti's numbers and 36 per cent in that of Ford India pulled down overall growth momentum. Car exports in the April-October 2005 period recorded a modest 8.4 per cent increase at 1,00,761 units (92,873), Hyundai India and Tata Motors fuelling the growth.
Hyundai, whose South Korean parent has made the Indian subsidiary manufacturing hub for small cars, saw a near 30 per cent increase in shipments at 60,659 units against 46,943 units in the same period last fiscal.
On the other hand, Tata Motors saw a massive 454 per cent increase in numbers with exports standing at 11,081 units against 1,999 units in the seven months of last fiscal.
Three-wheeler exports from India in the April-October this fiscal saw a six per cent growth at 45,152 units against 42,566 units in the same period last year, SIAM said.
Bajaj Auto single-handedly led the charge, providing as much as 44,404 units to three-wheeler exports.
Monday, November 21, 2005
Automobile exports from India moved up 33 per cent in the seven months of this fiscal, boosted by healthy demand for two-wheelers and commercial vehicles even as car exports were relatively subdued witnessing single digit growth on account of negative growth in Maruti's numbers.
Auto exports in the April-October 2005 period stood at 4,71,511 units, up 33.4 per cent from 3,53,212 units in the same period last fiscal, according to figures released by Society of Indian Automobile Manufacturers (SIAM).
The growth was fuelled by a blazing 51 per cent increase in demand for motorcycles, the biggest contributor to export numbers.
Bike exports from the country till October this fiscal stood at 2,18,473 units as against 1,44,192 units for the same period last fiscal, with as many as eight of the nine manufacturers, including segment leaders Bajaj Auto and Hero Honda, experiencing higher demand.
Led by Honda Motorcycle and Scooter India, scooter/ scooterettee exports grew 42.1 per cent to 54,119 units from 38,077 units exported in April-October 2004, while moped shipments in the period stood at 28,305 units, an increase of 55.1 per cent. Overall, two-wheeler exports grew 50 per cent in the April-October this year, recording the highest growth in the auto industry.
Closely following the two-wheeler segment were commercial vehicles where foreign shipments grew 48.6 per cent to 21,635 units from 14,557 units in April-October 2004. Goods carriers in the Light Commercial Vehicle (LCV) segment led the charge in this segment at a growth of 91.9 per cent at 13,229 units.
On the car side, a 32 per cent decline in Maruti's numbers and 36 per cent in that of Ford India pulled down overall growth momentum. Car exports in the April-October 2005 period recorded a modest 8.4 per cent increase at 1,00,761 units (92,873), Hyundai India and Tata Motors fuelling the growth.
Hyundai, whose South Korean parent has made the Indian subsidiary manufacturing hub for small cars, saw a near 30 per cent increase in shipments at 60,659 units against 46,943 units in the same period last fiscal.
On the other hand, Tata Motors saw a massive 454 per cent increase in numbers with exports standing at 11,081 units against 1,999 units in the seven months of last fiscal.
Three-wheeler exports from India in the April-October this fiscal saw a six per cent growth at 45,152 units against 42,566 units in the same period last year, SIAM said.
Bajaj Auto single-handedly led the charge, providing as much as 44,404 units to three-wheeler exports.
Indiacar
don't even go there....
You can't make anything as capable as a Toyota for the next thousand years!
If you could it would have penetrated the market years ago.
People in europe buy Indian cars, there where a handful of citirovers sold to pensioners, but that's it.
Why should we allow the consumer to give money to the enemy?
You can't make anything as capable as a Toyota for the next thousand years!
If you could it would have penetrated the market years ago.
People in europe buy Indian cars, there where a handful of citirovers sold to pensioners, but that's it.
Why should we allow the consumer to give money to the enemy?
QUOTE(platinum786 @ Dec 4 2005, 09:58 AM)
don't even go there....
You can't make anything as capable as a Toyota for the next thousand years!
If you could it would have penetrated the market years ago.
People in europe buy Indian cars, there where a handful of citirovers sold to pensioners, but that's it.
Why should we allow the consumer to give money to the enemy?
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You can't make anything as capable as a Toyota for the next thousand years!
If you could it would have penetrated the market years ago.
People in europe buy Indian cars, there where a handful of citirovers sold to pensioners, but that's it.
Why should we allow the consumer to give money to the enemy?
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Im not one to stand for India, but in all honesty India might not have the brains or ability to design high quality car but it certainly can assemble cars, Pakistan assembles Toyota, Mitsubishi and Honda, Soon it will be assembling BMW, Like I said designing is out of the question for India or Pakistan but assembling can be done anywhere.
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don't even go there....
You can't make anything as capable as a Toyota for the next thousand years!
If you could it would have penetrated the market years ago.
People in europe buy Indian cars, there where a handful of citirovers sold to pensioners, but that's it.
Why should we allow the consumer to give money to the enemy?
You can't make anything as capable as a Toyota for the next thousand years!
If you could it would have penetrated the market years ago.
People in europe buy Indian cars, there where a handful of citirovers sold to pensioners, but that's it.
Why should we allow the consumer to give money to the enemy?
It is a 2 way deal. our companies will be allowed to sell to Indians. Some will say that we can't produce sufficient cars for our own market, so how are we going to benefit. The answer is simple, we do not procude all type of cars, for all type of segments (the market is too small). If we get accesss to the Indian market, some of our companies may be able to set up plants for selling nicshe products. Also remember that that the autoparts business is quite large in Pakistan.
I do not fear the Indian car manufacturars, we just have to make shure that we give the best environment to our manufacturars. competition is good.
Look at the healthcare industry. First, we started to send patients to Bangalore and Mumbai. The Indian hositals are now forming joint ventures, and setting up simmilar facilities in Pakistan. As Indian economic conditions resemble our own, they can set up facilities that are much cheaper then if we formed JV with western hospitals. It is a win win situation
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They restrict the flow of Qaulity vehicles like those from Japan and Germany, yet want to allow substandard Indian vehicles. No offence, but Indian cars don't compare to Mercedes and Toyota. Why are they limiting the flow of these top end cars with high tarrifs but wanting to allow the flow of crapper cars?!
And prey tell me how many Pakistanis can afford Toyota and Mercs. Do you even live in Pakistan? Can all Pakistanis afford these car? What was ur per capita income again? Yeah a maruti or hyundai cant compete with the likes of a camry or merc, but thankgod they exist cause i for sure cant afford either of them as of now! Dont u think those of us who cant afford these cars, might be happy with our M800s,Zens,santros....... I think there are many like me on the other side of the border too..... And for those who are proud that India,Pakistan would start manufacturing Bmws,mercs..... really how many of us could actually afford thm?
QUOTE(platinum786 @ Dec 4 2005, 09:58 AM)
don't even go there....
You can't make anything as capable as a Toyota for the next thousand years!
If you could it would have penetrated the market years ago.
People in europe buy Indian cars, there where a handful of citirovers sold to pensioners, but that's it.
Why should we allow the consumer to give money to the enemy?
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You can't make anything as capable as a Toyota for the next thousand years!
If you could it would have penetrated the market years ago.
People in europe buy Indian cars, there where a handful of citirovers sold to pensioners, but that's it.
Why should we allow the consumer to give money to the enemy?
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Let the Pakistan consumer decide why restrict him ? He will be having more choices. Belive me you willl be surprised.
Lot of Industries in India suffered due to opening of market. But Chinese motorcycles and TV companies are fairing badly in India due to quality.
Indias Tata's make the 1st or 2nd highest selling mid-size sedan and small cars in India behind maruti-suzuki ahead of Toyota.
But I too admit not buying Tata car due to my inhibition about quality but at least I had a choice but even my car sells much less than Tata's.
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And prey tell me how many Pakistanis can afford Toyota and Mercs. Do you even live in Pakistan? Can all Pakistanis afford these car? What was ur per capita income again? Yeah a maruti or hyundai cant compete with the likes of a camry or merc, but thankgod they exist cause i for sure cant afford either of them as of now! Dont u think those of us who cant afford these cars, might be happy with our M800s,Zens,santros....... I think there are many like me on the other side of the border too..... And for those who are proud that India,Pakistan would start manufacturing Bmws,mercs..... really how many of us could actually afford thm?
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I've lived a major part of my life in Pakistan, & I go there every year. Toyota's are everywhere, and there are tons of mercs & beemers, followed by lexus. Tho, I don't think you've ever been there.
If many Pakistani's couldn't afford these type of cars then there wouldn't be Porsche & BMW assembly plant in Pakistan
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I've lived a major part of my life in Pakistan, & I go there every year. Toyota's are everywhere, and there are tons of mercs & beemers, followed by lexus. Tho, I don't think you've ever been there.
If many Pakistani's couldn't afford these type of cars then there wouldn't be Porsche & BMW assembly plant in Pakistan
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If many Pakistani's couldn't afford these type of cars then there wouldn't be Porsche & BMW assembly plant in Pakistan
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Whats wrong with you! Do u have no brains..... Look, I can assure you India will have More mercs, toyota's...... but to what end? I mean Yeah There are Mercs and Toyotas here, but Majority and by that I mean 90% of the car owners have cars which fall in the B or C segment..... and there is a reason to it. You see we belong to south asia, the starting salaries we ppl get, most of us cant afford a merc or toyota in the first go, and I am pretty sure thats the case with my Pakistani counterparts..... So initially a Maruti800,zen,santo are the only options....
Dude BMW is also coming to India, so what does that mean? You think suddenly Indians will start buying BMW's, they will setup factories here cause manufacturing is "CHEAPER" here, most of the end product will end up getting exported....... same is the case with Pakistan...... Apply logic, Indian population is more, per capita income is more, growth is excellent, has a huge middle class...... will more BMW's, Merc be sold here or in Pakistan?
The Fact is the Cars like maruti800,zen,santro,getz......... are for the middle class of south asia.... understand this......
QUOTE(sr71 @ Dec 4 2005, 02:05 PM)
Whats wrong with you! Do u have no brains..... Look, I can assure you India will have More mercs, toyota's...... but to what end? I mean Yeah There are Mercs and Toyotas here, but Majority and by that I mean 90% of the car owners have cars which fall in the B or C segment..... and there is a reason to it. You see we belong to south asia, the starting salaries we ppl get, most of us cant afford a merc or toyota in the first go, and I am pretty sure thats the case with my Pakistani counterparts..... So initially a Maruti800,zen,santo are the only options....
Dude BMW is also coming to India, so what does that mean? You think suddenly Indians will start buying BMW's, they will setup factories here cause manufacturing is "CHEAPER" here, most of the end product will end up getting exported....... same is the case with Pakistan...... Apply logic, Indian population is more, per capita income is more, growth is excellent, has a huge middle class...... will more BMW's, Merc be sold here or in Pakistan?
The Fact is the Cars like maruti800,zen,santro,getz......... are for the middle class of south asia.... understand this......
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Dude BMW is also coming to India, so what does that mean? You think suddenly Indians will start buying BMW's, they will setup factories here cause manufacturing is "CHEAPER" here, most of the end product will end up getting exported....... same is the case with Pakistan...... Apply logic, Indian population is more, per capita income is more, growth is excellent, has a huge middle class...... will more BMW's, Merc be sold here or in Pakistan?
The Fact is the Cars like maruti800,zen,santro,getz......... are for the middle class of south asia.... understand this......
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U inferiority complex bhungee. who is talking about India? Where are u getting this 90% figure from? u got any sources?
Just because there are lots of people in Pakistan who cannot afford these cars, doesn't mean that no one in pak can afford it. There is a demand for these cars, hence the reason for the opening up of these plants here. Didn't u read the news about Porsche in Lahore? 14 out of the first 17 cars had been booked before they even arrived in Pak.
QUOTE(_Samid_ @ Dec 4 2005, 02:10 PM)
U inferiority complex bhungee. who is talking about India? Where are u getting this 90% figure from? u got any sources?
Just because there are lots of people in Pakistan who cannot afford these cars, doesn't mean that no one in pak can afford it. There is a demand for these cars, hence the reason for the opening up of these plants here. Didn't u read the news about Porsche in Lahore? 14 out of the first 17 cars had been booked before they even arrived in Pak.
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Just because there are lots of people in Pakistan who cannot afford these cars, doesn't mean that no one in pak can afford it. There is a demand for these cars, hence the reason for the opening up of these plants here. Didn't u read the news about Porsche in Lahore? 14 out of the first 17 cars had been booked before they even arrived in Pak.
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17 cars does not a dealership make. Look, the sales of these high end cars are probably just small potatoes for the car companies. They are their just to penetrate the market, or they are just trying to satisfy the niche market of wealthy pakistanis. If a company were to introduce a quality, low cost car, then you would really see the auto market take off: cities and even perhaps rural (does any one know the percentage rural/urban population in pakistan? if there is a majority living in rural areas, a low cost car would be MUCH more marketable and buyable).
About those factories, I would have to agree the majority are for abroad markets: that is what MNCs do. they build where the costs are lowest, and sells where the consumers are most, and that aint going to be pakistan, especially in the case of bmws or lexuses, or porsches, or other luxury brands. They are locating their factories there to take advantage of the low costs and probably not looking at sale opportunities.
Anything that benifits the economy is a benifit for everyone, there is no friends or enemys in business, busniess is always business
In principle, no one benefits from restricting business activities!
the word is MAY.
it wont happen, IT WONT HAPPEN!
just like other wet dreams of bhangees
it wont happen, IT WONT HAPPEN!
just like other wet dreams of bhangees
BTW, BMW is going to be introducing the 3 series in India from next year. They are building a factory in Chennai I believe. Following that they will be launching the 5 series. They are betting on making a dent into the high-end Indian market with the 3 series.
India has a much larger car market than Pakistan, with way more demand. Yet most foreign companies coming to India (with toyota as an exception) are using India for export as well because there the Indian market demand cannot buy all cars rolling off their production line and India is a cheap manufacturin destination anyway. Toyota is an exception, all their cars are being sold exclusively in India, and they are doing very well. They sell approximately 1000 cars a month in India, toyota corolla (priced at about $18,000) is doing good here. They aren't using India as an export base yet (from what I know). . Skoda which is owned by Volkswagon is another foreign company in India exporting as well as meeting the Indian market demand. But they do not rely exclusively on the Indian market... BMW will most likely export some cars as well. Hyundai is doing very well in India, but its exports business is doing even better.
In India, I own an Octavia and a Corolla. I may be one of the few privelaged. But there are many Indians that cannot afford a $20,000+ car. For them, Maruti and Tata fill the gap with their $3000 to $5000 cars. Hyundai targets the $8000 to $9000 market with their Santros. That is the real story behind the massive growth in the auto market. Tata is one of the few iNdian companies that has designed and is manufacturing all its part 100% in India. And they are doing very well with their Tata Indica and a few other low-cost models. They are reliable and sturdy. Surely if they were introduced into the Pakistani market, they could generate good competition. Competition leads to growth and a win-win situation for all.
India has a much larger car market than Pakistan, with way more demand. Yet most foreign companies coming to India (with toyota as an exception) are using India for export as well because there the Indian market demand cannot buy all cars rolling off their production line and India is a cheap manufacturin destination anyway. Toyota is an exception, all their cars are being sold exclusively in India, and they are doing very well. They sell approximately 1000 cars a month in India, toyota corolla (priced at about $18,000) is doing good here. They aren't using India as an export base yet (from what I know). . Skoda which is owned by Volkswagon is another foreign company in India exporting as well as meeting the Indian market demand. But they do not rely exclusively on the Indian market... BMW will most likely export some cars as well. Hyundai is doing very well in India, but its exports business is doing even better.
In India, I own an Octavia and a Corolla. I may be one of the few privelaged. But there are many Indians that cannot afford a $20,000+ car. For them, Maruti and Tata fill the gap with their $3000 to $5000 cars. Hyundai targets the $8000 to $9000 market with their Santros. That is the real story behind the massive growth in the auto market. Tata is one of the few iNdian companies that has designed and is manufacturing all its part 100% in India. And they are doing very well with their Tata Indica and a few other low-cost models. They are reliable and sturdy. Surely if they were introduced into the Pakistani market, they could generate good competition. Competition leads to growth and a win-win situation for all.
QUOTE(WebFighter @ Dec 4 2005, 11:16 PM)
BTW, BMW is going to be introducing the 3 series in India from next year. They are building a factory in Chennai I believe. Following that they will be launching the 5 series. They are betting on making a dent into the high-end Indian market with the 3 series.
India has a much larger car market than Pakistan, with way more demand. Yet most foreign companies coming to India (with toyota as an exception) are using India for export as well because there the Indian market demand cannot buy all cars rolling off their production line and India is a cheap manufacturin destination anyway. Toyota is an exception, all their cars are being sold exclusively in India, and they are doing very well. They sell approximately 1000 cars a month in India, toyota corolla (priced at about $18,000) is doing good here. They aren't using India as an export base yet (from what I know). . Skoda which is owned by Volkswagon is another foreign company in India exporting as well as meeting the Indian market demand. But they do not rely exclusively on the Indian market... BMW will most likely export some cars as well. Hyundai is doing very well in India, but its exports business is doing even better.
In India, I own an Octavia and a Corolla. I may be one of the few privelaged. But there are many Indians that cannot afford a $20,000+ car. For them, Maruti and Tata fill the gap with their $3000 to $5000 cars. Hyundai targets the $8000 to $9000 market with their Santros. That is the real story behind the massive growth in the auto market. Tata is one of the few iNdian companies that has designed and is manufacturing all its part 100% in India. And they are doing very well with their Tata Indica and a few other low-cost models. They are reliable and sturdy. Surely if they were introduced into the Pakistani market, they could generate good competition. Competition leads to growth and a win-win situation for all.
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India has a much larger car market than Pakistan, with way more demand. Yet most foreign companies coming to India (with toyota as an exception) are using India for export as well because there the Indian market demand cannot buy all cars rolling off their production line and India is a cheap manufacturin destination anyway. Toyota is an exception, all their cars are being sold exclusively in India, and they are doing very well. They sell approximately 1000 cars a month in India, toyota corolla (priced at about $18,000) is doing good here. They aren't using India as an export base yet (from what I know). . Skoda which is owned by Volkswagon is another foreign company in India exporting as well as meeting the Indian market demand. But they do not rely exclusively on the Indian market... BMW will most likely export some cars as well. Hyundai is doing very well in India, but its exports business is doing even better.
In India, I own an Octavia and a Corolla. I may be one of the few privelaged. But there are many Indians that cannot afford a $20,000+ car. For them, Maruti and Tata fill the gap with their $3000 to $5000 cars. Hyundai targets the $8000 to $9000 market with their Santros. That is the real story behind the massive growth in the auto market. Tata is one of the few iNdian companies that has designed and is manufacturing all its part 100% in India. And they are doing very well with their Tata Indica and a few other low-cost models. They are reliable and sturdy. Surely if they were introduced into the Pakistani market, they could generate good competition. Competition leads to growth and a win-win situation for all.
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WTF is the point of this post? Read the title. Pakistan is the subject, not India.
QUOTE(platinum786 @ Dec 4 2005, 03:48 PM)
This government needs a slap in the face.
They restrict the flow of Qaulity vehicles like those from Japan and Germany, yet want to allow substandard Indian vehicles. No offence, but Indian cars don't compare to Mercedes and Toyota.
Why are they limiting the flow of these top end cars with high tarrifs but wanting to allow the flow of crapper cars?!
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They restrict the flow of Qaulity vehicles like those from Japan and Germany, yet want to allow substandard Indian vehicles. No offence, but Indian cars don't compare to Mercedes and Toyota.
Why are they limiting the flow of these top end cars with high tarrifs but wanting to allow the flow of crapper cars?!
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OH MY GOD I SO AGREE WHAT KIND OF IDIOTS MADE THIS DECISION !! WE NEED ONLY QUALITY! NOT SOME INDIAN CRAP!
WE SHOULD MAKE CARS LIKE SANGYOUNG REXTON, THEY HAVE MERCEDEZ ENGINE BUT CAR IS MADE BY CHINA
My point is, if they are going to import cars like the tata range etc, why bother?
We have a lot of cars like that, in a domestic market that should be encouraged.
What we need is better cars, if they where going to import Indian assembled beamers i'd have no objection.
We have a lot of cars like that, in a domestic market that should be encouraged.
What we need is better cars, if they where going to import Indian assembled beamers i'd have no objection.
QUOTE(usmanakram @ Dec 5 2005, 04:20 AM)
OH MY GOD I SO AGREE WHAT KIND OF IDIOTS MADE THIS DECISION !! WE NEED ONLY QUALITY! NOT SOME INDIAN CRAP!
WE SHOULD MAKE CARS LIKE SANGYOUNG REXTON, THEY HAVE MERCEDEZ ENGINE BUT CAR IS MADE BY CHINA
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WE SHOULD MAKE CARS LIKE SANGYOUNG REXTON, THEY HAVE MERCEDEZ ENGINE BUT CAR IS MADE BY CHINA
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autoindia had shown some pictures of pakistani and iranian high class sedan and some of the latest moterbys from some months ago in some auto show , i really like iranian state car (like india s m800 in 1980) even me and author felt that pakistan have lot to catch up . pls if you donot need our scrap please donot buy it let british and europeans buy it because they love our scrap car
QUOTE(platinum786 @ Dec 5 2005, 04:42 PM)
My point is, if they are going to import cars like the tata range etc, why bother?
We have a lot of cars like that, in a domestic market that should be encouraged.
What we need is better cars, if they where going to import Indian assembled beamers i'd have no objection.
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We have a lot of cars like that, in a domestic market that should be encouraged.
What we need is better cars, if they where going to import Indian assembled beamers i'd have no objection.
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talking like the richest people on earth..even u make merc or BMW ?still assembling...how many car manufacturesrs r there in pak?do u have any indigenious design? y hyundai made india their manufacturing place and pak their assembling ?
its nice to hear the all ur population travel in merc while they still suffer in poverty...wht a show
QUOTE(WebFighter @ Dec 4 2005, 11:16 PM)
BTW, BMW is going to be introducing the 3 series in India from next year. They are building a factory in Chennai I believe. Following that they will be launching the 5 series. They are betting on making a dent into the high-end Indian market with the 3 series.
India has a much larger car market than Pakistan, with way more demand. Yet most foreign companies coming to India (with toyota as an exception) are using India for export as well because there the Indian market demand cannot buy all cars rolling off their production line and India is a cheap manufacturin destination anyway. Toyota is an exception, all their cars are being sold exclusively in India, and they are doing very well. They sell approximately 1000 cars a month in India, toyota corolla (priced at about $18,000) is doing good here. They aren't using India as an export base yet (from what I know). . Skoda which is owned by Volkswagon is another foreign company in India exporting as well as meeting the Indian market demand. But they do not rely exclusively on the Indian market... BMW will most likely export some cars as well. Hyundai is doing very well in India, but its exports business is doing even better.
In India, I own an Octavia and a Corolla. I may be one of the few privelaged. But there are many Indians that cannot afford a $20,000+ car. For them, Maruti and Tata fill the gap with their $3000 to $5000 cars. Hyundai targets the $8000 to $9000 market with their Santros. That is the real story behind the massive growth in the auto market. Tata is one of the few iNdian companies that has designed and is manufacturing all its part 100% in India. And they are doing very well with their Tata Indica and a few other low-cost models. They are reliable and sturdy. Surely if they were introduced into the Pakistani market, they could generate good competition. Competition leads to growth and a win-win situation for all.
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India has a much larger car market than Pakistan, with way more demand. Yet most foreign companies coming to India (with toyota as an exception) are using India for export as well because there the Indian market demand cannot buy all cars rolling off their production line and India is a cheap manufacturin destination anyway. Toyota is an exception, all their cars are being sold exclusively in India, and they are doing very well. They sell approximately 1000 cars a month in India, toyota corolla (priced at about $18,000) is doing good here. They aren't using India as an export base yet (from what I know). . Skoda which is owned by Volkswagon is another foreign company in India exporting as well as meeting the Indian market demand. But they do not rely exclusively on the Indian market... BMW will most likely export some cars as well. Hyundai is doing very well in India, but its exports business is doing even better.
In India, I own an Octavia and a Corolla. I may be one of the few privelaged. But there are many Indians that cannot afford a $20,000+ car. For them, Maruti and Tata fill the gap with their $3000 to $5000 cars. Hyundai targets the $8000 to $9000 market with their Santros. That is the real story behind the massive growth in the auto market. Tata is one of the few iNdian companies that has designed and is manufacturing all its part 100% in India. And they are doing very well with their Tata Indica and a few other low-cost models. They are reliable and sturdy. Surely if they were introduced into the Pakistani market, they could generate good competition. Competition leads to growth and a win-win situation for all.
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i love tata indica it is quiet smooth and touches good speed and gives good mileage but i own a honda city (old version) and it rocks and i donot have any problem with it and i m thinking for going corolla can you give me some info about it (mileage ,maintanence,dislikes etc )
for others suzuki swift was designed with the help of the maruti engineers and is selling like hot cakes in india and aboard so my pak brothers donot bye it because it has indian hand in it
i have seen rolls royce phantom (2005) in mumbai roads might be some 4 or 5 and it cost around 2.5 crores (inr) and a some hummves cost some where around a 70 lakhs correct me if i am wrong
This topic was started with attention to flame, rub it in, and with full of indian wet dreams, as we have seen in the past.
People dont get emotional, it is MAY. havent happened.
People dont get emotional, it is MAY. havent happened.
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