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aziqbal
U.S. asks Pak to abandon gas project with Iran


ISLAMABAD (Times of India) -- The U.S. has asked Pakistan to abandon the seven-billion-dollar gas pipeline planned to Pakistan and India ahead of next week's visit by a high-level Iranian delegation, a newspaper reported on Monday.

"The U.S. has asked Pakistan to distance itself from the pipeline, but the leadership is adamant in its refusal to the constant U.S. demands," The Nation quoted a senior government official as saying.

Iran and Pakistan have said the project would forge ahead despite U.S. reservations. Pakistan said the project is vital to meet the country's growing energy needs.

The U.S. appeal came before Iranian Foreign Minister Manuchehr Mottaki was slated to arrive on May 24 in Islamabad for consultations with Pakistani leaders on key issues including the international standoff over Tehran's nuclear program and the pipeline.

A day later, Iranian First Vice President Parviz Davudi is also set to arrive.

Meanwhile, the joint working group of Iran, Pakistan and India was also scheduled to meet in the Pakistani capital from May 22 to 24 for technical discussions on the proposed 2,670 km pipeline from Iran's southern Pars field.

Those discussions are to be followed by ministerial-level talks next month in Tehran.

Pakistani officials said the project should take three to four years to complete after the three countries strike a final deal.
waz
LOL! After snubbing us for nuclear tech, dragging their feet over the investment treaty now they ask something like this from us?

F*CK THEM! rolleyes.gif
Black Jack
Exactly, after the refusal of nuclear energy, pathetic. "Up yours!" biggrin.gif
Hellraiser006


no nuclear treaty treaty for us yet one for india.

no advanced weapons for us yet offer them to india.

always releasing 'failed state' articles about yes yet none for that toilet bowl called india.

violating our airspace and killing our civillians.

selling us $600 million dollars worth of soya beans when we were expecting F-16's.

they humiliate us and then they want this!

macau boy
Without the gas pipeline, Pakistan will be depending on foreign oil even more in the future. Libya has caved in and Nigeria is already controlled by major western oil companies. The entire Gulf Region and Middle East are under US occupation except Iran. That leaves only Central Asia and Russia, besides domestic production, as long term suppliers. The US knows too well the strategic importance of this pipeline and what it means to the economy of Pakistan, Iran and India. The US also knows that the pipeline deal could potentially complicate its plan to control Iran and make military action far more difficult.

It is something that leaderships of Pakistan, Iran and India should think over carefully,...very carefully.
Captain Bribes
QUOTE(macau boy @ May 16 2006, 01:40 PM) [snapback]763368[/snapback]

Without the gas pipeline, Pakistan will be depending on foreign oil even more in the future. Libya has caved in and Nigeria is already controlled by major western oil companies. The entire Gulf Region and Middle East are under US occupation except Iran. That leaves only Central Asia and Russia, besides domestic production, as long term suppliers. The US knows too well the strategic importance of this pipeline and what it means to the economy of Pakistan, Iran and India. The US also knows that the pipeline deal could potentially complicate its plan to control Iran and make military action far more difficult.

It is something that leaderships of Pakistan, Iran and India should think over carefully,...very carefully.


Dont worry Chinese friend; We know the Americans very well, and believe me we will squeeze uncle sams nipples till they go purple, we are definetly going to take all we can from them whilst we grow our economy.

'Pak asks U.S. to abandon nuclear project with India'

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Hellraiser006
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we will squeeze uncle sams nipples till they go purple,



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did you learn that from your private life? tongue.gif


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Without the gas pipeline, Pakistan will be depending on foreign oil even more in the future.



we have a huge deficit this year, there is no way can depend even more heavily on imported oil. it would cripple us.
umiqum
Now if US gos to war with Iran then the pipeline goes down the drain anyway. But if the US puts sanctions on Iran and we go ahead with the pipeline. What are the chances that the US will put sanctions on Pakistan and back off from all the civil and military co-operation with Pakistan.

They still need Pakistan in war on terror as they have long term plans to stay in Afghanistan. Would the new US govt take a different stance on Iran issue and a different approach with Pakistan? I think the govt is taking a balanced approach at this time atleast until some clear signs start showing from Iran EU negotiations.

Who knows what happens and how GOP reacts once and if the UNSC is able to put sanction on Pakistan. Atleast if everything goes smooth then Iranis know that we were on their side until butt whooping. laugh.gif

Anarchist

Tell uncle sam, how about the bird? tongue.gif

We are going to go ahead with pipeline excl.gif
mani
In my opinion Pakistan is using the pipeline as a bargaining tool
If Pak does not get any thing special in return for dropping it they would/should go ahead with it
Thats what Musharaf has said to uncle sam
Mark Sien
Why doesn't the U.S agree to the simple wishlist;

1) Unconditional sale of civilian nuclear technology.
2) Unconditional financial grant on new-built military aircraft, ships, tanks and support equipment.
3) Unconditional financial grant/aid to compensate for long-term losses if pipeline is abandoned.
4) Unconditional recognition of Pakistan as a nuclear state.
5) Unconditional recognition of Pakistan's national integrity and soveriegnty
6) Formal appology for lack of appreciation for Pakistan's efforts since 1950.
7) Unconditional economic cooperation.
8) Unconditional compensation for all Pakistani troops lost for American interests.


Surely the U.S loves giving strings for requests, maybe Pakistan outta do the same? It is no more ridiculous than what the U.S expects from Pakistan in the past. If the U.S would not comply with all conditions, or at least not with the first five, then Pakistan should start pushing more pro-Chinese policies.
MoThSmOkE
Pakistan should be going full throttle with gas pipeline with Iran. The oil prices are screwing us left and right. It would be criminal not to spread our resources right now.
ZPak
So far the stand is good. We are going to continue with the pipeline no matter what. Screw the US.
aziqbal
QUOTE(macau boy @ May 16 2006, 01:40 PM) [snapback]763368[/snapback]

Without the gas pipeline, Pakistan will be depending on foreign oil even more in the future. Libya has caved in and Nigeria is already controlled by major western oil companies. The entire Gulf Region and Middle East are under US occupation except Iran. That leaves only Central Asia and Russia, besides domestic production, as long term suppliers. The US knows too well the strategic importance of this pipeline and what it means to the economy of Pakistan, Iran and India. The US also knows that the pipeline deal could potentially complicate its plan to control Iran and make military action far more difficult.

It is something that leaderships of Pakistan, Iran and India should think over carefully,...very carefully.


Then you dont know Pakistani people my freind. Pakistan will show middle finger if US trys to intervene between Pakistan and China. Pakistan is so called US allie but there is no compromise when it comes to Sino-Pak freindship.

Pakistan will do what benifits its own self and China we dont care what US barks they can bark what they like.

Bottom line Pakistan should go full steam ahead with all projects anyone says something tell them we want consessions if they agree still continue the project and have a good day.


US keep asking Pakistan "please stop Gwader project because China will have acess to warm Arabian shores and we are scared of the Chinese" what Pakistan say, they say we will make Gwader and allow China naval access because thier our next door neighbours and our brothers.

There was a time when we need US but now US need Pakistan.

QUOTE(Mark Sien @ May 16 2006, 08:30 PM) [snapback]763490[/snapback]

Why doesn't the U.S agree to the simple wishlist;

1) Unconditional sale of civilian nuclear technology.
2) Unconditional financial grant on new-built military aircraft, ships, tanks and support equipment.
3) Unconditional financial grant/aid to compensate for long-term losses if pipeline is abandoned.
4) Unconditional recognition of Pakistan as a nuclear state.
5) Unconditional recognition of Pakistan's national integrity and soveriegnty
6) Formal appology for lack of appreciation for Pakistan's efforts since 1950.
7) Unconditional economic cooperation.
8) Unconditional compensation for all Pakistani troops lost for American interests.
Surely the U.S loves giving strings for requests, maybe Pakistan outta do the same? It is no more ridiculous than what the U.S expects from Pakistan in the past. If the U.S would not comply with all conditions, or at least not with the first five, then Pakistan should start pushing more pro-Chinese policies.



Now thats the spirit you took my words.
lein303
Iran is a member of the Opec and so is Iraq.

Opec is a majority muslim organisation and it is the main controller of oil. like jews control diamonds we control oil.


now US has a very bleak future ahead because of the increase in oil prices by opec.

what does the US do? invade some of the main opec players and thus control it.


why does US not want the gas pipleline to go through?

well at the present the present owners of iranian gas will make profit. after war. the US company who will own the iranian company. which will probably be partley owned by uncle bush. will make profit.



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