http://daily.urdupoint.com/todayNewsLive.p...=1&cat_id=2

Like we care about their aid. And they are the ones buying humans. Tell them to stop human trafficking from their side first. if the demand stops the supply will stop too. where do u guys dig up this crap anyway. don't u go to nicer sites like yahoonews or msn news or cnn

It really does look like pakistanis are more obsessed about India than we are.

Message for those Pakistanis who desperately dig the internet for crap so they can rant BS about India. Get a life you losers

So noone can give a reply to this shocking news

Can someone atleast post this news in english or hindi? I searched the whole damn internet couldnt find a single other report. What kind of aid are they talking about and who is this guy saying this?

india sucks

:LOLANI:Yeh , they suck Americans and the rest of the world, so it seems.

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In President George W. Bush’s $ 2.12 trillion budget for fiscal 2003 beginning October this year, India is now treated as a “frontline state” like Pakistan and Jordan, meaning it is allied with the USA in the war against terrorism, administration officials said India gets $ 151.185 million under various heads apart from PL-480 programmes which are handled by the US Agriculture Department.


Under Foreign Military Financing (FMF), apart from the $ 50 million for fighting terrorism, India also gets $ 1 million for international military education and training (IMET) for the coming year against a similar amount in 2002 and $ 498 million in 2001. Agencies


taken from your own indian news paper
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020206/world.htm#8







US Ambassador to India Robert D. Blackwill today announced increased American aid to India to fight HIV/AIDS over the next five years.Addressing a select gathering on “India, the USA and the fight Against HIV/AIDS,” he said in the past five years, the US Government had contributed $ 63 million to fight HIV/AIDS in India. Over the next five years, the total contribution would be $ 120 million, he added.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20021107/nation.htm#5

The quality of British aid to India
http://www.christian-aid.org.uk/indepth/98...id/britaid1.htm

$ 151m US aid for India

Washington, February 5
The Bush Administration has announced military assistance of $ 50 million each to India and Pakistan for the war against terrorism but pegged the overall development assistance to Islamabad at twice the amount of over $ 151 million for New Delhi.

In President George W. Bush’s $ 2.12 trillion budget for fiscal 2003 beginning October this year, India is now treated as a “frontline state� like Pakistan and Jordan, meaning it is allied with the USA in the war against terrorism, administration officials said India gets $ 151.185 million under various heads apart from PL-480 programmes which are handled by the US Agriculture Department.

Pakistan gets $ 304 million total assistance, twice that of India, presumably because of its economic condition and the expenditure it is incurring in providing base and other facilities to the USA.

Under Foreign Military Financing (FMF), apart from the $ 50 million for fighting terrorism, India also gets $ 1 million for international military education and training (IMET) for the coming year against a similar amount in 2002 and $ 498 million in 2001. Agencies
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20020206/world.htm#8


The whole world is seeing who is doing that.....

ADB plans to double aid to India

The Asian Development Bank (ADB) has decided to more than double its financial assistance to India to over $2.6 billion by 2008 from the current level of around $1.3 billion, according to the ADB President, Mr Haruhiko Kuroda.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2006/0...50404470100.htm

6-b ADB aid for India in next 3 years


THE Asian Development Bank (ADB) has agreed to provide $6 billion assistance to India in the next three years (2003-05) as part of its medium term country assistance programme, making India by far the single largest borrowing country among its members.

http://www.blonnet.com/2002/05/24/stories/...52402640300.htm

Keep yourself in under your own skin bhangee, dont push you luck

there is no terrorist in kashmir. if there are terrorist in kashmir then india should allow OIC,SCO, UN, Amnetsy international to enter in indian occupied kashmir.
indian army killing the innocent child ,women and men in kashmir.
read the daily news of indian occupied kashmir
www.kmsnews.org
india getting aid in larger number... ADB,Worldbank,USA,britian and other countires providing aid to india.
joint development lol ...
military aid for Pakistan may be to supplly intelligence to the American about Taliban. indian agency does not know anything about Taliban terrorist. USA need taliabn info . and only ISI can provide the info about Taliban .

If there is no terrorism in Kashmir why did the US ban Hizb and other militant groups in Kashmir. The banks that provide aid to India. Thats a loan. India takes loans from ADB and WB to implement development projects like metro rail and other things including health projects. US and India are participating in a program to develop AIDS vaccine. The aid must be linked to that if it is in the health sector or maybe it could be some form of a good gesture to help the poor people in India who live in remote locations and dont have access to good hospitals.

Regarding what we know about the Taliban. I think you shud leave this to the intelligence agencies. Coz neither u know nor I know what they know about Taliban.

The guy just posted the link, not even the full article lol!! and he's obsessed? We've seen you Indians not only post the article, the link, but also a full-time analysis with commentary...and a lengthly one-sided discussion. My God, if you have problems with obsession, why don't you bloody stop posting on Pakistani Defence Forum...don't you have anything else to do in your granny's basement?

US ban them on indian request. they are not terrorist. instead giving answer of my question you giving another comments. your creul indian army killing the women ,childs,men...every day..
indian are killed 90,000 kashmire peoples. .. and kashmire peoples stand against the indian army cruelty ... and you call it terrorism... get a life...
who is big terrorist ? indian army or kashmire peoples ...decide yourself if there is no mask of patriotism on your face.
ADB,worldbank,US,Britian giving the aid ..to india for reduction in poverty, Hiv, education, health.
and USA also giving military aid.
ADB giving aid assistance to india ... USA also giving aid against HIV in india...
man go and check your HIV numbers in country... india is rank second after Africa in HIV.




a rolling stone gather no moss....
first you said ..US giving military aid for intelligence....to india ... and now ...lol..
it is a fact that USA cannot win against Taliban without the Pakistani intelligence help ..

All he has posted are news articles about aid to India. I am yet to discover who it was who said that he will stop aid to india if it does not stop human smuggling. Does his links have any bloody connection with the topic on this thread????

And how many threads have you seen in indian defence forums that say "hey look what i found look what i found Indian economy is better than pakistani economy in this and this and this....". We have nothing to prove to pakistanis with regards to economy. All the pakistani talks there are just to involve our traditional rivals, unlike the kind of $hit that guys like this thread starter dig up and rant about.

And I have already said why i joined this forum go look it up

Brother... If they r not terrorist why did they drive out the Kashmiri Pandits (their own people) who were living in Kashmir. This is the thing that I am telling you with no patriotism in my face. Regarding the casualities u r deviating from the topic by bringing all this up. Regarding aid you r right. In indirect terms it is being used to reduce poverty by sanctioning infrastructutre projects to generate jobs and then finally reducing poverty.

Regarding intelligence I simply said that u and I don't know what our intelligence agencies know about Taliban. So please read carefully before replying. I understand with all the hatred it sometimes becomes difficult to read and understand.

do not give comments without proofs. indian army killing to muslims kashmires ... and some extrmist hindus improted from india in kashmir by indian army ..for attack on freedom fighter political leader of kashmir .



friend...www.google.com. go here and search about ISI help for USA.
USA was demand for ISI help to Pakistan against Taliban .

I don't give a toss, all I see is an Indian skewing what he does on Pakistanis.

I don't want to visit Indian Defence Forum, but I've seen enough Indian news articles and heard enough about forums like Bharat Rakshak to see how you Indians have lengthly discussions on anti-Pakistan topics. If you have nothing to prove to Pakistanis, then stop posting here..

You might be shipped back to Indira Gandi international for what you said above
Mods Take Notice

Smelly bhindian....do you really think that we have time to go and see why you have joined this forum? Look looser, you are NOT important--in fact you are just another mosquito amongst the million other bhindian mosquitos keenly bustling on PDF!! And then loud mouths like you say we are obssessed with uglies like you!! It's the other way around!!

Brother..If you want the link here it is http://www.panunkashmir.org/
and also search on google for the Kashmiri Pandits. It will tell you the People are originally from Kashmir. and regarding intelligence agencies I don't know what you are trying to tell me. Please explain to me clearly what you are saying. "USA was demand for ISI help to Pakistan against Taliban ." I cant make any sense out of this. All I am trying to say is that as US approached ISI but they must have come to RAW too.

has anyone visited bhindian defence forum or bharat-ratshack forum? the discussion abt india we have here is not even 10% of that those bhangees have on those forums abt Pakistan.

do not give me indian web sites links... give me neutral links.
dont u know that kashmire hindu pandit also supporting to kashmire freedom fighter !
check these links..i found on the google according to your Request
http://www.gharib.demon.co.uk/kchr/hrviol.htm
http://www.webcom.com/hrin/parker/sub01ws.html

http://www.gharib.demon.co.uk/reports/ustates.htm
http://www.klc.org.pk/articles/article-1.htm

http://www.tgde.org/showvote.phtml?id=75
www.kmsnews.org
http://www.holocaustinkashmir.50megs.com/



Historically, the ISI and CIA have had a close relationship
CIA NEED ISI MORE THEN RAW. RAW should give freedom to the freedom fighter instead killing to them
ISI is coopertaing with 70 + countries of the world...against terrorism.

thats why i requested to the admin that creat indian froum separatly

Oh really can you point out where we have been pakistani economy with India?

My point is that it is that this comparison thing is disgusting and thats all.

get a life...cow worshiper
i was on indian forum and they were posting threads against PAkistan in indian statrategt disscusion forum instead of talking on indian problems
when i post 2 threads about india on indian defence forum ...then banned me and said to me that we dont want anti indian thread.
hide the dirt under the carpet

First, I am a Christian

And no wonder they kicked you out. If you had any sense you would have posted some pro-Pakistan threads instead of Anti-India ones and you would have been welcome. Do you see me posting anti-pakistan threads here?

I guess noone is on vacation and cant reply.
What reply were you expecting anyway, duh.

India defends trafficking record

Well the situation is difrent here because many bhangees create anti-pakistani threads and are still unbanned.

Hyderabad, May 4 , 2007 – A travel agent Rasheed who is alleged to be kingpin in the human trafficking case, has revealed involvement of several politicians in an interrogation and that exposure has created unrest in the circle of politicians including MPs, MLAs and some former ministers.

Rasheed, whose name had figured prominently during the investigations ever since the emigration scandal broke out, had surrendered before the police yesterday. He is being interrogated by a team of Central Crime Station police as per PTI.

According to sources, Rasheed had named one Rajupitti, believed to be a bookie, as the key person in the racket. He admitted that Rajupitti had allegedly introduced to him the prospective clients who were in need of forged passports and travel documents to go abroad.

Rasheed, who had allegedly approached some MPs and MLAs with offers of huge bribe to use passports of their family members, will be produced before Nampally criminal court here.

Meanwhile, the police conducted searches at his and his relatives residences here last night and recovered six passports and some other incriminating documents, they said.

"His revelations suggest the fake passport network is very wide and spread over several states. We are now concentrating on cross-checking the information that he is giving," the sources said.

Rasheed, a resident of Malakpet area, who went into hiding ever since the scandal allegedly involving Gujarat BJP MP Babubhai Katara came to light, had yesterday claimed that he was facing a threat to his life from some politicians.

Brother. Check out cnn.com. Type the word Kashmiri Pandits and see what they told to Reuters an independent news agency. And regarding ur links I think you need to put more independent links than that.

Regarding CIA point agreed and I don't want to take this discussion any further. Coz like I said neither you nor I am an intelligence officer. So we don't know what our intelligence agencies know about Taliban. Please understand this line.

Crazy Indians need to be humanised:

NEWS : Indian cult supplies child sex trade
Posted By Ajay Shah (ajay@mercury.aichem.arizona.edu)
Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:53:51 -0700 (MST)

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(Reuter / Savita Kirloskar)
Jan 22, 1997

SAUDATTI, India (Reuter) - Frenzied worshippers gathered
near a south Indian temple Wednesday ready for the full moon
celebration of a Hindu goddess whose devotees include a cult
sentencing children to a life of prostitution.
Girls -- many under 10 years old -- chosen to become
Devadasis, meaning handmaidens of god, will be dedicated to the
goddess Yelamma in secret ceremonies before being brought to the
temple.
Thousands of pilgrims, most of whom have nothing to do with
the illegal cult, flocked to Saudatti, the town in Karnataka
state where the annual festival takes place.
Idols of the goddess, molded from mud, lined roads thick
with worshippers coming by foot, car, bus and bullock cart.
``We have been travelling for eight days to reach Saudatti,
but we will not marry our daughter to the goddess,'' Kamala, a
young mother aboard a bullock cart, told Reuters.
The goddess is a favorite deity among Dalits, low caste
Hindus, who seek her protection.
``I come here every year because I have faith in the goddess
and I'm not bothered about the Devadasi system,'' Avinash Kane,
a Bombay man, said.
Even prostitutes, who have every reason to rue a life dealt
them by the cult, harbor no bitterness toward Yelamma.
``I am going to Saudatti because it is the only place where
I can tell the goddess my sorrows and my joys,'' said
Chandrabai, a brothel keeper in Bombay's infamous Kamatipura
district.
Hordes of people, chanting and screaming, crowded around a
filthy pool where devotees of Yelamma, a manifestation of the
goddess Renuka, will bathe Thursday before making a three mile
uphill trek to the temple.
On the final leg of the pilgrimage, people with their faces
smeared with tumeric and bodies plastered with leaves walked and
crawled, while women possessed by the goddess rolled on the
ground in wild-eyed trances.
A feast Wednesday night will mark the start of celebrations
expected to last through Saturday.
Most of the girls brought into the Devadasi system will
return home, but once they reach puberty they will become human
cargo in the sex traffic in cities like Bombay, where sex can be
bought for less than the price of a bottle of beer.
Hunger, poverty and superstition are the root causes of a
practice which sees parents or relatives sell a daughter to a
pimp or brothel for $150 to $200.
The cult also entraps a handful of boys, known as Jogappas,
who are made to become transvestite prostitutes.
The centuries-old Devadasi system persists in secret after
being made illegal, but the campaign against it and the growing
fear of AIDS are showing results.
The privately funded Indian Health Organization (IHO) in
Bombay, which campaigns to stamp out the Devadasi cult,
estimates that around 1,000 girls are dedicated to the goddess
each year, compared with around 7,000 less than 10 years ago

http://www.hindunet.org/srh_home/1997_1/0107.html

These are few evils of society that we are all fighting against. That doesn't mean we support it. and Brother don't tell me about these things coz I have heard a lot about your justice system. There was this news article about a man who raped his neighbours daughter in NWFP and then the tribals told the man to give his wife to the his neighbour as a compensation. What kind of a system is that. All societies have evils. Bringing them up and making a comparison between the societies is not the solution. Like for example Germans encourage lesbianism. But we Indians and Pakistanis don't do that.

Few? This is part of your religion and on a huge scale. Hinduism with its idol worshipping is fundamentally flawed. I am glad you detest it. Do you condemn it because it is morally wrong or because the international community condemns it? I would like to know who is fighting it since the number of prostitutes and brothels in India are increasing. It is the religious edicts of hinduism that allows and encourages such violations of human sanctity.

Your comparison with the NWFP incident is perverse. Pathans did it to avenge their dishonour, whilst the Hindus do prostitution for money and their religious values.

Just go to hi5.com and see how many indian girls are lesbians, hell of alot. I suppose lesbianism is part of hinduism too. You Indians are one fuc*ked up people.

I am sure that you are one fu*ked up muslim. I am not a Hindu but I can see clearly that you have a violent hatred for hindus and hinduism. I dont think there is any difference between you and those extremists, hindu or muslim or christian or jew. If you do not agree with another person's faith then shut your mouth and mind your own business. You have no right to insult his beliefs or his religion. Tell me is this what you have learnt from Islam? I am glad that you are not an Indian.

I fully agree with the comment. Each and every section/society/religion has some very good and some very bad elements and no real follower of the religion can hate the other religion. There are some extremists in every religions and they are the cause of this turmoil in the world.

Just to emphasise my point only very few Al Qayeda extremists are creating so much of trouble that almost evry muslim in the western world are taken with suspicion. Same thing happened in India during 1985-1995 after the death of Mrs. Indira Gandhi, when every Sikh was accepted with suspision.

religion is something very personal matter and should not be hated or loved based on religion.

Speaking the facts means "i am f*ked", guess its the way you hindus think. India has the second worst apartheid system in the world, aka caste system. The first being the Israel. In India minorities are randomly tortured and killed and are deprived of fundamental human rights such as in Kashmir and khalistan and Naga land etc. You now have the worst aids crisis in the world as a consequence of your immoral religious ways. Change your ways now before its too late. face the facts, idol worshipping has no worth.

Human rights is our business, its the business of any civilised people. Universal justice is what is portrayed by Islam. Unlike Hinduism no other religion promotes prostitution.

Why don't you get a fu©kin life you pathetic piece'a'$h|t rat-indian!! Lemme ask you somethin .... whose forum are you on? Do you see anywhere here 'indian defence forum' written? Why is it that you pathetic dumbfu©ks come to our forum when you repeatedly get insulted, abused, kicked around and squashed like cockroaches? Is it because you rodents have no life of yourself and get to suffocating in that sardine-can india of yours? What is it, don't have any space to go take $h|t in your $h|thole india, that you come to our forum and spread that stench of yours.

I guess you gutter-rats have no spine, no morals, no ethics, no honor because here i am peeing on your pathetic existance and you still stick around for more.

Word of advice, you fu©kin gutter-crawling maggot, why don't to your own country's forum, maybe you will be better off finding cow urine to be pee'd on you, cuz you ain't gonna get none here.

Oh so what are you? An atheist? A Saint? Some alien from outer space? One things for sure, you're a fu©kin gutter-rat who likes to come around to our forums, with yoru begger bowl and beg us to tell you pathetic you really are. You got no fu©kin right to tell us who we are, when you yourself haven't seen your rotten soul in the mirror.



Fu©ked Up?? You're calling him fu©ked up, when you rodent-indians massacre 4000 Muslims in gujrat, when you indians demolished the Babri Masjid in ayodhiya, when you sent in the army to the golden temple in amritsar, when you kill thousands in Kashmir, when you persecute the people in Nagaland.

I guess you certainly have earned the title of being more fu©ked than anybody else on this forum, by the simple deduction that your puny little indian brain couldn't think before you started to bark.



You know, maybe you should practice what you teach, because i am saying the same damn thing to your pathetic gutter-kind since day one on this forum, to mind your own fu©kin business and go mix with your own rat-kind. So make like a poodle ... douchebag!



You know somethin, its probably one of those rarest of rare occassions where i would agree with a rat-indian and i'm glad that my fellow countryman is not an indian, because we certainly don't bathe in cow urine, we certainly don't eat rats and our corpses are certainly not eaten by dogs on the river banks of ganges!!!!

So yea, i'm glad and i'm grateful to the Almighty that he or i are not indians!!!!!!!

You Got that damn Right!!!!!!

I am lucky and cant thank enough to my God for me not being a bhindian.

I swear to God it is better to ran over by a Donkey cart and die than being an indian living in a slum somwhere in bombai and a being woman and getting rapped in Dehli by every thing that walks and talks.


Hell even bloody animals are not save, cause the bhindians will eat anything that there is.

Anyway folk why we are even paying attention to these low life thin legged dark morons?

lets focus on our goals and developments

I concur to what Saint has said and urge fellow Pakistanis to put our focus on the development of our country, the well being of our fellow countrymen and totally ignore when these rodents bark. It is imperative that we start moving away from bashing these rodents and completely (importantly) ignore them, turn our attention and focus on how we can improve life better back home. Improve and contribute towards a better future for our people. Engage in discussion which are productive, to enhance each others knowledge by sharing, being patient and having the resolve toward unity.

As the saying goes "A finger may push along ...... but a fist can cause serious damage!"

Stand together, mesh our brains, its time to wipe out indians from discussion and move on to the core of our existance ..... Pakistan.

Listen you idiot this is not Pakistan. If minorities are tortured here then we would have founded India as a Hindu republic. We didnt have to adopt secularism.

I am a member of a minority community myself. I have lived in 7 Indian states. I have never seen or heard of any friend, relative or anyone from a minority discriminated is any way. We have sporadic incidents every now and then but which country does'nt? Noone is perfect. I have seen people dragged from buses, streets etc randomly and forced on the ground in the USA just because they are brown.

Dont even take me to comment on minority violence in Pakistan. Can a hindu or Christian become a prime minister or president in Pakistan? How many minority leaders do we have in India?

Before you point out the dust in our eyes, take care of the RUST in your. Get it?

ive lived in india and ive seen minority discrimination on a regular basis. so here goes your claim.

Sure sure and it doubles up as a lie coz its from you. Why would the muslim percentage increase every year then? Even Christianity and bhuddism is spreading like hell. Keep your opinions in Pakistan.

I was watching the News and they said that 7 states in india have encated anti-conversion laws. why? what kinf of DEMOCRACY IS THIS.

Because Indian condoms are too small for them?

Even the Dalit's population is increasing.
The minorities are being tormented as we type, now they aren't permitted to have sex either!