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Pak Navy to go with UN if US attacks Iran

KUWAIT :Link 'Pakistan Navy has enjoyed good relations with the Kuwaiti Navy since its inception in the early 1980s when both naval forces began exchanging official visits and seafaring expertise,' Belal Abdul Nasser, Captain of the Pakistani naval ship PNS Tippu Sultan, told the Arab Times.

Pakistan naval officials met with top navy officials, adding that a request for joint exercises with the Kuwait Navy had been and a response was awaited, added Captain Abdul Nasser. There is good cooperation between the navies of the two countries, since relations were established in the early 1980s, and several Pakistan Navy personnel had been involved in the maintenance and operations of various dockyard facilities in Kuwait.

PNS Tippu Sultan recently docked at Shuwaikh Port for a four-day official visit to Kuwait. Nasser welcomed media practitioners aboard, saying that, PNS Tippu Sultan visited Kuwaiti territorial waters several times in the past. These visits, he said, signify the strength of brotherly ties between Kuwait and Pakistan.


Pakistani Navy Chief Commodore Hesham Khan Seddique, Defense AttachŽ of Pakistan in Saudi Arabia Brigadier Waseem Sadeq, First Secretary at the Pakistani Embassy in Kuwait Sajjad Ahmed and Captain Mohamed Moussa from the Kuwaiti Navy were also aboard the ship.

In their meeting with the Kuwaiti Navy Chief on Sunday, Seddique said the Pakistani officials discussed bilateral issues such as security, joint exercises and future visits. Lauding the Kuwaiti Navy for its professionalism, Seddique expressed his amazement at how the Kuwaiti Navy managed to bring together a number of experts in the field through the training of its staff in the best naval forces around the world.

Asked if the Pakistani Navy will support the US in case of a military attack against Iran, Seddique clarified 'considering the Pakistani Navy ships are part of the Coalition Maritime Campaign Plan (CMCP) under UN Resolution 1373, these ships will comply with the agreements made at the Security Council.'

All Type-21 Destroyers such as PNS Tippu Sultan took part in various naval exercises since the participation of Pakistani Navy at the CMCP in April 2004. Tasks performed at the CMCP include policing roles, anti-piracy operations, anti-smuggling operations, interdiction of drug traffickers, slave trading, terrorism and any form of illegal action as well as search and rescue. Pakistani Navy is now commanding CMCP operations in the Arabian Gulf region and nearby territorial waters for the second time.


Nasser disclosed the Pakistani Navy has asked the Kuwaiti Navy officials to carry out several exercises while PNS Tippu Sultan is in Kuwait. He added the ship will also visit the CMCP headquarters in Bahrain by the end of February to attend a ceremony for the Pakistani Navy pass on the command to the French Navy.

PNS Tippu Sultan is a leading ship of the 25th Destroyer Squadron within the Pakistani fleet. The ship is equipped with state-of-the-art weapons and sensors, along with a multi-purpose Allouette Helicopter as well as radars, sonar, missiles, torpedoes, medium caliber gun, soft kill weapons, and rocket launchers. It is regarded as the most efficient ship within the Pakistani fleet manned by 300 crew members.

By Dahlia Kholaif
Arab Times Staff and Agencies


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Under the assumption that the UNSC approves any attack...similar to the first U.S.-Iraq war.

Asked if the Pakistani Navy will support the US in case of a military attack against Iran, Seddique clarified 'considering the Pakistani Navy ships are part of the Coalition Maritime Campaign Plan (CMCP) under UN Resolution 1373, these ships will comply with the agreements made at the Security Council

Under the assumption that the UNSC approves any attack...similar to the first U.S.-Iraq war.

Exactly .. that's the point and don't forget that if Iran is able to get a counter resolution by OIC on this effect, Pakistan's collaboration would be further curtailed or even avoided, as we have been clear to USA that any attack on Iran is not acceptable to us, as if USA wants to further damage the region than it should pay the price for such an adventure and not their allies who is daily questions in their local media.

Iran is a brother state to Pakistan and we want no part of civilian or military losses of our neighbouring brother Muslim state.

Also the above could mean implementation of trade restrictions against Iran in case Security council resolution but in no way means Pakistan or PN supporting any attack as all our leaders have been clear cut on it.

Another way of twisting words to divide us.

If the Americans attack Iran it would be unilaterally without security council approval because I don't think there are any chances for the UN approving anything like this. In such a case Pakistan will have no obligations.

If the Americans attack Iran it would be unilaterally without security council approval because I don't think there are any chances for the UN approving anything like this. In such a case Pakistan will have no obligations.

Exactly ... that's why we have made such an statement !

How odd (the statement that is, and the wording)! Doesn't the UN have troops in Iraq, or used to?

No, the UN has never had troops in Iraq.

lol, so its all just according to the Kuwaiti Navy Chief.

There is no way Pakistan would participate in any attack on Iran. It would be political suicide for the Pakistani government, whoever that may be at the time.

Not to mention that Pakistani sailors themselves would never follow such absurd orders.

I thought they had security personnel to protect the UN envoy to Iraq. Or did they hire mercenaries?

They were most likely being protected by Blackwater or the US military. They left after their headquarters was bombed by Al Qaeda.

if it goes to the UN and the emerging WORLD GOVERNMENT, they don' have a say. Pakistan will be a future target for Iran....

Doubt that. Nukes go a long way.

It doesn't matter if the UN passes a resolution against Iran, or even if they approve a mission against them. Nobody can force a country to attack another nation under international or UN law. On top of that, the Pakistani nation's public sentiment will not allow such an attack. That same sentiment is also shared by the Pakistani armed forces.

Not to mention similar public sentiment in Iran would not allow any attack on Pakistan. The very notion that Iran or Pakistan would ever consider hostilities against each other is laughable.

And what is the "WORLD GOVERNMENT"?

A true democratic world government suit Pakistan because the 3rd world poor countries would have an automatic majority.

seeing how all evil "dictators" came to power via LEGAL democratic means and then dissolved all Democracy, what if another "Hitler" or "Stalin" comes to power, in a WORLD GOVERNMENT? Why do you think the elites and the Bilderberger groups want to dissolve the world borders and sovereignities, and disarmament of every countries millitary unless in their control? Eventually to have global FEUDAL government with everyone chipped with an RFID. And anyone who reads histories of feudal governments primarily in the medieval England, would know what it really is. 98% of the land belonging to the feudal lords and kingships, and 95% of the population congested and concentrated in small lands, dying of hunger, disease. Whatever they grew in any of their farms, they paid most of it as "tax" the kingships.

And seeing all the agendas of "depopulation", so to leave the rest of the surviving world as chipped slaves (all this usually done by purposely designed viruses, started up wars where both sides are funded and run (divide and conquer most of the times as Romans used to do), and control of vital resources such as food, water, oil, and other resources needed for humanity to function, and create artificial scarcity such as the present rise in oil resources for the sake of destroying the middle class).

Of course, they want their "World Government". This is why the UN was set up in the first place! How about doing a little research before you make such remarks, so dangerous if they come true, it could be a disaster that would put you and the people in a slavery system which there may be no getting out. If you don't by now, think that there isn't such a plan, I am sorry to say you are a complete and utter idiot. And that goes for everyone thinking it as a conspiracy theory.

There is enough evidence of all this. 9/11 was done by them. In United State, they are making mass concentration camps linked by railroads, such as were in Nazi Germany. They've passed bills which are to quell all dissent to the government...anything linked to "extremism". They've hired about 20,000 priests who will urge people to give up their guns during the time of "Marshall Law", which could happen anytime in another "terrorist attack". The Congress has no power on getting clearances at the moment view present confidential documents of the millitary, the President, and private interests running them (which is a VERY VERY VERY big sign of US constitution in trouble).

Another evidence is the Georgia guidestones located in Georgia, USA. Enclosed are the pictures below:






FYI: The Age of Reason was a book written by Thomas Paine. Its intent was to destroy the Judeo-Christian beliefs upon which the Republic of United States was founded.



FYI: The hole that you see in the stone was drilled in the Center Stone so that the North Star could be visualized through it at any moment. This was one of several requirements stipulated by R.C.Christian for the building of the American Stonehenge and reflects his obsession with the alignment of the stars, the sun, and the moon. Occultists often worship the alignment and movement of heavenly bodies as part of their religious ceremonies.

THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

Limiting the population of the earth to 500 million will require the extermination of nine-tenths of the world's people. The American Stonehenge's reference to establishing a world court foreshadows the current move to create an International Criminal Court and a world government. The Guidestones' emphasis on preserving nature anticipates the environmental movement of the 1990s, and the reference to "seeking harmony with the infinite" reflects the current effort to replace Judeo-Christian beliefs with a new spirituality.

The message of the American Stonehenge also foreshadowed the current drive for Sustainable Development. Any time you hear the phrase "Sustainable Development" used, you should substitute the term "socialism" to be able to understand what is intended. Later in this syllabus you will read the full text of the Earth Charter which was compiled under the direction of Mikhail Gorbachev and Maurice Strong. In that document you will find an emphasis on the same basic issues: control of reproduction, world governance, the importance of nature and the environment, and a new spirituality. The similarity between the ideas engraved on the Georgia Guidestones and those espoused in the Earth Charter reflect the common origins of both.

Yoko Ono, the widow of John Lennon, was recently quoted as referring to the American Stonehenge, saying:

"I want people to know about the stones ... We're headed toward a world where we might blow ourselves up and maybe the globe will not exist ... it's a nice time to reaffirm ourselves, knowing all the beautiful things that are in this country and the Georgia Stones symbolize that. " (1)

What is the true significance of the American Stonehenge, and why is its covert message important? Because it confirms the fact that there was a covert group intent on

(1) Dramatically reducing the population of the world.
(2) Promoting environmentalism.
(3) Establishing a world government.
(4) Promoting a new spirituality.

Certainly the group that commissioned the Georgia Guidestones is one of many similar groups working together toward a New World Order, a new world economic system, and a new world spirituality. Behind those groups, however, are dark spiritual forces. Without understanding the nature of those dark forces it is impossible to understand the unfolding of world events.

The fact that most Americans have never heard of the Georgia Guidestones or their message to humanity reflects the degree of control that exists today over what the American people think, and thus ignored that message at their own peril.

You do remember back in 9/11, of Bush's threats: "either you're with us...or against us"....

And what about illegal Iraq war? can't force......

stop living in virtual reality londo.

"UN" is just a mock world body set up as a smoke screen for the corrupt "Bilderbergers" to establish their world government. In Google video, type "Council of foreign relations" to figure out more

New Horizon, this is good info. I like to follow news of secret societies such as Bilderbergers, Trilateral Commission, Freemasons, Illuminati and such. So it was new knowledge for me about the Georgia Guidestones.

And you don't have to explain what the UN is like to Londo...he lives on a similar one on Babylon 5!

- First, bush's threats had nothing to do with us going into Afghanistan. America would never dare attack Pakistan, just because we refused to let them attack Afghanistan from our soil. That was just Musharraf giving excuses. The real reason is that he himself wanted to impress America and become their ally. Which he did.
- Second, everyone thought Osama-Bin-Ladin was responsible for 9/11 at the time and the Taliban were refusing to hand him over. It was obvious that something evil had been done, and Afghanistan was not co-operating. Only if Iran did something crazy like 9/11 and said "yes we are responsible, what are you going to do about it", THEN maybe the Pakistani public would allow such a thing.

What do you mean "And what about the illegal Iraq war?" Yes it was illegal. But Pakistan or other countries have not been forced to attack Iraq against their will. I don't see what the comparison is that you are making.

I never said the UN is fair or good.

I don't have time to watch videos right now.

You have to realize the power of public sentiment. Some things OUT OF THE QUESTION, doesn't matter what UN resolutions are passed or what American pressure says. Pakistan would never be involved in hostilities against Iran. Only only if somehow Iran openly attacked someone in an evil way. But that is just not happening.

America would never dare attack Pakistan, just because we refused to let them attack Afghanistan from our soil. That was just Musharraf giving excuses. The real reason is that he himself wanted to impress America and become their ally. Which he did.

Firstly it was not Gen. Musharaff but India who had openly offered their bases and every now & then showing Al Qaeda presence in Kashmir including the drama of false Indian airlines plane being taken hostage on the tarmac !

To avoid this complicated Gen. Musharaff had allowed US bases including secretarian terrorism done by Taleban in Pakistan for which pre 9/11 Gen. Musharaff was quite pissed off especially when Taleban supported thugs killed the Shia G.M or C.E.O of POF (Pakistan Ordinance factory).

Get your facts straight mate ...

I'm not going to get into politics... if you think America would have dared to attack Pakistan if we had refused access to our soil and airspace... then I guess we disagree.

I think US is underestimating Iran armed forces. But if the war goes on, it will only be to secure f**king Isreal and then US will suck on Iranain oil...
and all the muslims countries will just watch and stand while US rapes Iran and secures Isreal interests.......may Allah have mercy on every body and guide the ignorants on the right path!!

pakistan Zindabab!!!!