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April 1, 2008, 2:00 pm
Meet the World’s Best Performing Stock Market: Pakistan
Posted by Heidi Moore
If you were one of the legions of Wall Street Kool-Aid drinking emerging-markets speculators who bought into the promise of BRICs–Brazil, Russia, India and China–you would have lost a lot of money in the market thus far this year.
Instead, the only booming stock markets are those in the most emerging of emerging markets: Pakistan, Peru, and Chile. Those stocks markets have risen, respectively, 9.5%, 7.1%, and 6.6% this year, according to data provided to Deal Journal by FactSet Research Systems. Taiwan, it should be noted, posted a 7.5% rise for the first quarter.
As for the BRICs? Brazil is down 11%, Russia is down 13%, China is down 26% and India is down 40%. Overall, the average for all world markets this year to date is a loss of 11%, which makes the U.S., what, an outperformer with its decline of 9%.
Other risers include Thailand at 3% and Mexico at 1.5%; the biggest decliner after India is Turkey, down 35% since the year started.
There is the possibility that Brazil, Russia, India and China may have peaked because of all the foreign investment that has rushed into them so fast; more likely, they are now such an integrated part of the world economy that they caught the same bug that took down so many other economies. Andy Mukherjee of Bloomberg wrote in this column that a $428 billion stock glut of shares held by the government and strategic investors are coming out of lockup restrictions and will be traded soon in China.
In contrast, Pakistan, Taiwan, Peru and Chile still are flying a bit under the radar when it comes to global investment and deal making. This WSJ quarterly review article today nods at the success of such “frontier” markets.
Of course, one quarter’s success doesn’t an economy make. Investors will be watching to see if these countries, with their illiquid markets and sometimes tenuous political conditions, can grow when the world-wide competition is a bit more intense and not merely float on a rising tide.
http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/04/01/meet...og?mod=yahoo_hs
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The credit goes to Musharaff and his economic policies.
i think by 2015 pakistan will have the largest stock market outside USA if mushy stay. 
QUOTE(ZJoseph @ Apr 1 2008, 01:56 PM) 
i think by 2015 pakistan will have the largest stock market outside USA if mushy stay.
No.
QUOTE(ZJoseph @ Apr 1 2008, 01:56 PM)
i think by 2015 pakistan will have the largest stock market outside USA if mushy stay.
It could be nice yes, but returning to reality, nope, not a chance.
QUOTE(ZJoseph @ Apr 1 2008, 02:56 PM)
i think by 2015 pakistan will have the largest stock market outside USA if mushy stay.
Come on man. You turned the thread into a joke. Best performing maybe, but certainly not the largest.
How much $$ is the total market worth? Has it crossed $100 billion?
has nothing to do with mush, if anyhing the new boost was due to the return of legitimate government
think by 2015 pakistan will have the largest stock market outside USA if mushy stay.
lololol, good one bro.
lololol, good one bro.
QUOTE(Adnan @ Apr 1 2008, 01:00 PM)
April 1, 2008, 2:00 pm
Meet the World’s Best Performing Stock Market: Pakistan
Posted by Heidi Moore
If you were one of the legions of Wall Street Kool-Aid drinking emerging-markets speculators who bought into the promise of BRICs–Brazil, Russia, India and China–you would have lost a lot of money in the market thus far this year.
Instead, the only booming stock markets are those in the most emerging of emerging markets: Pakistan, Peru, and Chile. Those stocks markets have risen, respectively, 9.5%, 7.1%, and 6.6% this year, according to data provided to Deal Journal by FactSet Research Systems. Taiwan, it should be noted, posted a 7.5% rise for the first quarter.
As for the BRICs? Brazil is down 11%, Russia is down 13%, China is down 26% and India is down 40%. Overall, the average for all world markets this year to date is a loss of 11%, which makes the U.S., what, an outperformer with its decline of 9%.
Other risers include Thailand at 3% and Mexico at 1.5%; the biggest decliner after India is Turkey, down 35% since the year started.
There is the possibility that Brazil, Russia, India and China may have peaked because of all the foreign investment that has rushed into them so fast; more likely, they are now such an integrated part of the world economy that they caught the same bug that took down so many other economies. Andy Mukherjee of Bloomberg wrote in this column that a $428 billion stock glut of shares held by the government and strategic investors are coming out of lockup restrictions and will be traded soon in China.
In contrast, Pakistan, Taiwan, Peru and Chile still are flying a bit under the radar when it comes to global investment and deal making. This WSJ quarterly review article today nods at the success of such “frontier” markets.
Of course, one quarter’s success doesn’t an economy make. Investors will be watching to see if these countries, with their illiquid markets and sometimes tenuous political conditions, can grow when the world-wide competition is a bit more intense and not merely float on a rising tide.
http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/04/01/meet...og?mod=yahoo_hs
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The credit goes to Musharaff and his economic policies.
Meet the World’s Best Performing Stock Market: Pakistan
Posted by Heidi Moore
If you were one of the legions of Wall Street Kool-Aid drinking emerging-markets speculators who bought into the promise of BRICs–Brazil, Russia, India and China–you would have lost a lot of money in the market thus far this year.
Instead, the only booming stock markets are those in the most emerging of emerging markets: Pakistan, Peru, and Chile. Those stocks markets have risen, respectively, 9.5%, 7.1%, and 6.6% this year, according to data provided to Deal Journal by FactSet Research Systems. Taiwan, it should be noted, posted a 7.5% rise for the first quarter.
As for the BRICs? Brazil is down 11%, Russia is down 13%, China is down 26% and India is down 40%. Overall, the average for all world markets this year to date is a loss of 11%, which makes the U.S., what, an outperformer with its decline of 9%.
Other risers include Thailand at 3% and Mexico at 1.5%; the biggest decliner after India is Turkey, down 35% since the year started.
There is the possibility that Brazil, Russia, India and China may have peaked because of all the foreign investment that has rushed into them so fast; more likely, they are now such an integrated part of the world economy that they caught the same bug that took down so many other economies. Andy Mukherjee of Bloomberg wrote in this column that a $428 billion stock glut of shares held by the government and strategic investors are coming out of lockup restrictions and will be traded soon in China.
In contrast, Pakistan, Taiwan, Peru and Chile still are flying a bit under the radar when it comes to global investment and deal making. This WSJ quarterly review article today nods at the success of such “frontier” markets.
Of course, one quarter’s success doesn’t an economy make. Investors will be watching to see if these countries, with their illiquid markets and sometimes tenuous political conditions, can grow when the world-wide competition is a bit more intense and not merely float on a rising tide.
http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/04/01/meet...og?mod=yahoo_hs
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The credit goes to Musharaff and his economic policies.
And where have u found that 40% figure for India,or have u dreamt it last night.
QUOTE(shahid_2dk @ Apr 1 2008, 03:46 PM)
It could be nice yes, but returning to reality, nope, not a chance.
bro which one talking about? mushu staying or not ???
if mushy satys pakistan is best performing stock market in the world and if pakistan is the best performing stock market than by 2015 pakistan is the largest stock market outside USA.
pakistan will be a trillion dollar economy by 2009 imo. we should all be as optimistic as joseph
Pakistan has got a long way to go. There are many Indian companies listed on the Bombay Sensex which have market capitilisation more than the entire Pakistan stock market. There are 4 Indians in the current list of 10 richest people in the world.
I guess this is all out of window then....
ISLAMABAD (March 15 2008): After Saudi Arabia, Pakistan has approached four other friendly countries, China, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Kuwait and Qatar, for seeking financial support to reduce budgetary deficit and keep economy on the move.
ISLAMABAD (March 15 2008): After Saudi Arabia, Pakistan has approached four other friendly countries, China, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Kuwait and Qatar, for seeking financial support to reduce budgetary deficit and keep economy on the move.
QUOTE(Jag @ Apr 2 2008, 07:27 PM)
I guess this is all out of window then....
ISLAMABAD (March 15 2008): After Saudi Arabia, Pakistan has approached four other friendly countries, China, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Kuwait and Qatar, for seeking financial support to reduce budgetary deficit and keep economy on the move.
ISLAMABAD (March 15 2008): After Saudi Arabia, Pakistan has approached four other friendly countries, China, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Kuwait and Qatar, for seeking financial support to reduce budgetary deficit and keep economy on the move.
What a troll.
There is thread already about seeking finicial assistance.
QUOTE(Jag @ Apr 2 2008, 08:27 PM)
I guess this is all out of window then....
ISLAMABAD (March 15 2008): After Saudi Arabia, Pakistan has approached four other friendly countries, China, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Kuwait and Qatar, for seeking financial support to reduce budgetary deficit and keep economy on the move.
ISLAMABAD (March 15 2008): After Saudi Arabia, Pakistan has approached four other friendly countries, China, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Kuwait and Qatar, for seeking financial support to reduce budgetary deficit and keep economy on the move.
Funny their economies all happen to somehow be related to fuel...
QUOTE(Jag @ Apr 3 2008, 11:27 AM)
I guess this is all out of window then....
ISLAMABAD (March 15 2008): After Saudi Arabia, Pakistan has approached four other friendly countries, China, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Kuwait and Qatar, for seeking financial support to reduce budgetary deficit and keep economy on the move.
ISLAMABAD (March 15 2008): After Saudi Arabia, Pakistan has approached four other friendly countries, China, United Arab Emirates (UAE), Kuwait and Qatar, for seeking financial support to reduce budgetary deficit and keep economy on the move.
U srsly want me to post $1 a day sponsorship of indian child adds being run by world vision. We are talking loan like anyother country would for managing its budget however u guys are so shameless that some NGO has to beg ppl of develop world to help u countrys poor kids....
Yeh ur SHUPAR PAWAR cant take care of it self.
here is something to relfect on;
Indian recieves abt $5billion per year in aid. http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/09-27b-04.asp
whats the difference between being the largest and the best performing?
QUOTE(DarkAngel @ Apr 2 2008, 05:44 AM)
has nothing to do with mush, if anyhing the new boost was due to the return of legitimate government
or may be because of the free and fair elections held by musharaf promised investers that pakistan is politically more stable then is speculated.....
QUOTE(joshi @ Apr 3 2008, 06:18 PM)
whats the difference between being the largest and the best performing?
best performing: growing the fastest
largest: with most market value
QUOTE(Gripen87 @ Apr 2 2008, 12:19 AM)
How much $$ is the total market worth? Has it crossed $100 billion?
72.9 as of 28th feb
QUOTE(Mangla @ Apr 3 2008, 01:49 PM)
What a troll.
There is thread already about seeking finicial assistance.
There is thread already about seeking finicial assistance.
What you mean troll,
Off Course I have taken that head lines from earlier thread.
Point you missed is that if Pakistani is asking for financial assistance then where is this growth figures going?
This 2 incidence are closely related in economics terms, one hand asking for financial assistance, mean government is in short cash to keep the intuition in shape, on other hand is Stock Market is performing then there is a indication of strong government policies and good business, what is believe.
And when I said financial assistance out of window, means I would rather be more positive about Performing stock market then ask financial help.
QUOTE(1pakistani @ Apr 3 2008, 08:58 PM)
U srsly want me to post $1 a day sponsorship of indian child adds being run by world vision. We are talking loan like anyother country would for managing its budget however u guys are so shameless that some NGO has to beg ppl of develop world to help u countrys poor kids....
Yeh ur SHUPAR PAWAR cant take care of it self.
here is something to relfect on;
Indian recieves abt $5billion per year in aid. http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/09-27b-04.asp
Yeh ur SHUPAR PAWAR cant take care of it self.
here is something to relfect on;
Indian recieves abt $5billion per year in aid. http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/09-27b-04.asp
Look man to be honest, its out of your understanding, you can say what you like and if you want to post $1 day stuff be my guest.
QUOTE(Jag @ Apr 3 2008, 07:28 PM)
What you mean troll,
Off Course I have taken that head lines from earlier thread.
Point you missed is that if Pakistani is asking for financial assistance then where is this growth figures going?
This 2 incidence are closely related in economics terms, one hand asking for financial assistance, mean government is in short cash to keep the intuition in shape, on other hand is Stock Market is performing then there is a indication of strong government policies and good business, what is believe.
And when I said financial assistance out of window, means I would rather be more positive about Performing stock market then ask financial help.
Off Course I have taken that head lines from earlier thread.
Point you missed is that if Pakistani is asking for financial assistance then where is this growth figures going?
This 2 incidence are closely related in economics terms, one hand asking for financial assistance, mean government is in short cash to keep the intuition in shape, on other hand is Stock Market is performing then there is a indication of strong government policies and good business, what is believe.
And when I said financial assistance out of window, means I would rather be more positive about Performing stock market then ask financial help.
Private and public finances there is a difference. The people who are investing in the stock market are largely private companies and citizens.
Government having to cover increased costs for wages and development is not linked to stock market because alot of the private companies on there are making profits so people are investing in them.
Do you understand why people invest in stock markets. Rhetorical question so no need to reply to statement.
QUOTE(Mangla @ Apr 4 2008, 01:53 PM)
Private and public finances there is a difference. The people who are investing in the stock market are largely private companies and citizens.
Government having to cover increased costs for wages and development is not linked to stock market because alot of the private companies on there are making profits so people are investing in them.
Do you understand why people invest in stock markets. Rhetorical question so no need to reply to statement.
Government having to cover increased costs for wages and development is not linked to stock market because alot of the private companies on there are making profits so people are investing in them.
Do you understand why people invest in stock markets. Rhetorical question so no need to reply to statement.
So you mean to say, government and private business has nothing to do with each other?
How this 2 are co-related, you don't have to believe me, there is enough material on internet for research.
And as we are talk check this thread "July-march Revenue Collection Up 13.7 Percent" "Pakistan Could Become Cash Magnet If New Govt Passes Economic Tests, Hopefully Pakistan becomes investment goldmine"
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QUOTE(Jag @ Apr 3 2008, 08:04 PM)
So you mean to say, government and private business has nothing to do with each other?
How this 2 are co-related, you don't have to believe me, there is enough material on internet for research.
And as we are talk check this thread "July-march Revenue Collection Up 13.7 Percent" "Pakistan Could Become Cash Magnet If New Govt Passes Economic Tests, Hopefully Pakistan becomes investment goldmine"
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How this 2 are co-related, you don't have to believe me, there is enough material on internet for research.
And as we are talk check this thread "July-march Revenue Collection Up 13.7 Percent" "Pakistan Could Become Cash Magnet If New Govt Passes Economic Tests, Hopefully Pakistan becomes investment goldmine"
"
My reponse is concerned with this thread. Sorry to not answer your question because that goes into a different area. Topic shifting is a sign of you are unsure of what you on about.
LASTLY, what dont you get about people investing in profitable companies.
the goverment makes their budget every year.....and allocates funds for difrent things.......out of no where came such a enourmous jump in oil prices which is having a adverse effect on pakistani economy...to minimise the damage the government would subsidise the oil...ie partially pay for the oil we use......but the GOP is out of money as it has invested the tax money in upgrading infastructure of the country.....so the saudis agreed to help us out.....
how this has anything to do with the Karachi Stock Exchange...i do not understand..
how this has anything to do with the Karachi Stock Exchange...i do not understand..
QUOTE(Yahya @ Apr 3 2008, 01:38 PM)
72.9 as of 28th feb
thanks a lot Yahya.
Jag. you are an idiot who has no knowledge of even the basics in economics and finance and you talk out of your @$$. what i feel amazed by is that even after being proven that you are a dumb idiot when it comes to economics in other threads, you still shamelessly come and talk out of your arse. typical indian. i could post a long reply trying to explain and refute your idiotic and illogical comments but if i explained it to a monkey it would grasp more than you.
QUOTE(Skull-Buster @ Apr 7 2008, 02:24 AM)
Jag. you are an idiot who has no knowledge of even the basics in economics and finance and you talk out of your @$$. what i feel amazed by is that even after being proven that you are a dumb idiot when it comes to economics in other threads, you still shamelessly come and talk out of your arse. typical indian. i could post a long reply trying to explain and refute your idiotic and illogical comments but if i explained it to a monkey it would grasp more than you.
Why are you jumping in between, did I step on your tail. IDIOT.
Hi guys,
I know this is a Pakistani forum so there are bound to be some Finance/investment students/professionals here.
I want to learn abt stock trading and im looking for ppl to recommend books/softwares/forums.Im a med student so not much background in that area.I do have little money sitting around,so i want to start playing slow and low right now so ill have good exposure by the time i start making some money....
Any ideas,especially by those who know the shyt is most welcome. Btw,can we trade online in Pakistani markets?
arite,thanks ppl
I know this is a Pakistani forum so there are bound to be some Finance/investment students/professionals here.
I want to learn abt stock trading and im looking for ppl to recommend books/softwares/forums.Im a med student so not much background in that area.I do have little money sitting around,so i want to start playing slow and low right now so ill have good exposure by the time i start making some money....
Any ideas,especially by those who know the shyt is most welcome. Btw,can we trade online in Pakistani markets?
arite,thanks ppl
QUOTE(haroons222 @ Apr 14 2008, 03:08 AM)
Hi guys,
I know this is a Pakistani forum so there are bound to be some Finance/investment students/professionals here.
I want to learn abt stock trading and im looking for ppl to recommend books/softwares/forums.Im a med student so not much background in that area.I do have little money sitting around,so i want to start playing slow and low right now so ill have good exposure by the time i start making some money....
Any ideas,especially by those who know the shyt is most welcome. Btw,can we trade online in Pakistani markets?
arite,thanks ppl
I know this is a Pakistani forum so there are bound to be some Finance/investment students/professionals here.
I want to learn abt stock trading and im looking for ppl to recommend books/softwares/forums.Im a med student so not much background in that area.I do have little money sitting around,so i want to start playing slow and low right now so ill have good exposure by the time i start making some money....
Any ideas,especially by those who know the shyt is most welcome. Btw,can we trade online in Pakistani markets?
arite,thanks ppl
yaar it just so happens I 'm also learning about some of this stuff, I have found 2 great sites
http://muslim-investor.com/basics which is dedicated to sharia complaint investing, this in turn links to another site www.fool.com, which has a large "how to" section to teach you the basics of investing. After a while it does get a bit complex, but you probably won't need many books after this. anyone know any other good sites?
I bought a couple of books from amazon, but I doubt I'll get round to reading them. If you are planning to invest some of your money (obviously not all) of your money on the Pakistani stock market, try http://www.brecorder.com/ they always have adverts for online Pakistani stock trading. I am planning to make small investments in Pakistan to see what the return is like. My view is we are going to continue to see a boom in Pakistan, though the US presidential election will affect us a great deal. does anyone know whether the contenders are going to back Bush's proposals for free trade zones in FATA?
shoaib pervez, you are right about KSE being several times smaller than the sensex. though I have always thought the richest man in the world doesn't really matter on iota. before bill gates it was the sultan of brunei, is brunei a superpower in the making? I think not. neither is india, not in the near future anyway.
QUOTE(Wing Commander @ Apr 14 2008, 06:32 AM)
yaar it just so happens I 'm also learning about some of this stuff, I have found 2 great sites
http://muslim-investor.com/basics which is dedicated to sharia complaint investing, this in turn links to another site www.fool.com, which has a large "how to" section to teach you the basics of investing. After a while it does get a bit complex, but you probably won't need many books after this. anyone know any other good sites?
I bought a couple of books from amazon, but I doubt I'll get round to reading them. If you are planning to invest some of your money (obviously not all) of your money on the Pakistani stock market, try http://www.brecorder.com/ they always have adverts for online Pakistani stock trading. I am planning to make small investments in Pakistan to see what the return is like. My view is we are going to continue to see a boom in Pakistan, though the US presidential election will affect us a great deal. does anyone know whether the contenders are going to back Bush's proposals for free trade zones in FATA?
shoaib pervez, you are right about KSE being several times smaller than the sensex. though I have always thought the richest man in the world doesn't really matter on iota. before bill gates it was the sultan of brunei, is brunei a superpower in the making? I think not. neither is india, not in the near future anyway.
http://muslim-investor.com/basics which is dedicated to sharia complaint investing, this in turn links to another site www.fool.com, which has a large "how to" section to teach you the basics of investing. After a while it does get a bit complex, but you probably won't need many books after this. anyone know any other good sites?
I bought a couple of books from amazon, but I doubt I'll get round to reading them. If you are planning to invest some of your money (obviously not all) of your money on the Pakistani stock market, try http://www.brecorder.com/ they always have adverts for online Pakistani stock trading. I am planning to make small investments in Pakistan to see what the return is like. My view is we are going to continue to see a boom in Pakistan, though the US presidential election will affect us a great deal. does anyone know whether the contenders are going to back Bush's proposals for free trade zones in FATA?
shoaib pervez, you are right about KSE being several times smaller than the sensex. though I have always thought the richest man in the world doesn't really matter on iota. before bill gates it was the sultan of brunei, is brunei a superpower in the making? I think not. neither is india, not in the near future anyway.
thanks bro.
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