ISLAMABAD: Bhasha consultant, the German Company Lemhyer has recommended the government to set up four hydropower stations of 1,150MW under Bhasha Diamer Dam Project for the royalty to North West Frontier Province (NWFP) and Northern Areas, sources told Daily Times on Wednesday.
The German Company Lemhyer has recently completed the draft of detailed engineering design of Bhasha Dam Project. The draft has been circulated to concerned departments and ministries. However, the final engineering design would formally be issued by June 30. Bhasha dam is one of the five major reservoirs that President Pervez Musharraf announced in 2005.
In the detailed draft engineering design circulated to different concerned departments, sources said, the company has recommended to keep flow rate of water at the level to fill the dam in four years.
According to the initial design, it was recommended to fill the dam in two years. The company has also recommended storing 60 percent water in the dam from the water inflows and release 40 percent water from dam to generate power and irrigation, sources said.
The official informed that German Company has also recommended to the government to maintain outflow of 35,000 cusecs water from the dam every month. In the draft, the company has asked to keep 1,160-meter height of the dam instead of 1,170 meters height set earlier. The company has said that this change in height will help to store the water at the time of sudden melting of glaciers.
“The company will brief the WAPDA on April 30 about the environmental impact of the dam’s construction and all stakeholders will hold meeting to review the environmental impact of the dam construction in the third week in Gilgat,” sources said. Diamer Bhasha consultants in the detailed engineering design have indicated cost of $8.505 billion at present against the earlier projected cost of $6.5 billion in year 2005.
Official said that the work on a Karakuram Highway to link Bhasha dam was in progress but no progress on land acquisition has been made because not a single penny had been spent in this regard so far. Karakuram Highway for Bhasha dam project would be upgraded at cost of Rs 11.578 billion to link Karakuram Highway with Bhasha dam, official said.
detailed engineering design have indicated cost of $8.505 billion at present against the earlier projected cost of $6.5 billion in year 2005.
This is exactly why we should not waste a second with regard to building dams, the longer we leave it the more the country suffers and the bigger the bill will be, Where are the pakistani democrats now???
I believe Musharraf preformed the ground breaking for Bhasha and this is currently under construction, can anyone here please clarify this??
thanks
This is exactly why we should not waste a second with regard to building dams, the longer we leave it the more the country suffers and the bigger the bill will be, Where are the pakistani democrats now???
I believe Musharraf preformed the ground breaking for Bhasha and this is currently under construction, can anyone here please clarify this??
thanks
Pakistan rice exports set to fall 15 percent, says official
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan may export 15 percent less rice this year after an ongoing power crisis affected milling, a senior official in the world's fifth biggest rice exporting nation said Thursday.
The announcement could further affect world rice prices which are near record highs, a key issue particularly in Asia where the grain is a staple.
Pakistan exported 3.3 million tons of rice last year but this year it will drop to 2.8 million tons, said Muhammad Azhar, chairman of the Rice Exporters Association of Pakistan.
"The decline in our rice export will mainly occur due to power shortages," Azhar said while talking to a French news agency.
"Mills have not been working to their full capacity due to electricity shortages. The power shortages have also badly affected husking and packing and the country had sufficient carry-over stocks before the new crop arrives in September, he said, adding that Pakistan's total production this year would be 5.5 million tons.
He had, however, suggested to the government not to export basmati rice to India to prevent re-export of the commodity by the country.
"We will lose the market if the government allows export of rice to India," he added.
Source: http://thenews.jang.com.pk/updates.asp?id=42513
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan may export 15 percent less rice this year after an ongoing power crisis affected milling, a senior official in the world's fifth biggest rice exporting nation said Thursday.
The announcement could further affect world rice prices which are near record highs, a key issue particularly in Asia where the grain is a staple.
Pakistan exported 3.3 million tons of rice last year but this year it will drop to 2.8 million tons, said Muhammad Azhar, chairman of the Rice Exporters Association of Pakistan.
"The decline in our rice export will mainly occur due to power shortages," Azhar said while talking to a French news agency.
"Mills have not been working to their full capacity due to electricity shortages. The power shortages have also badly affected husking and packing and the country had sufficient carry-over stocks before the new crop arrives in September, he said, adding that Pakistan's total production this year would be 5.5 million tons.
He had, however, suggested to the government not to export basmati rice to India to prevent re-export of the commodity by the country.
"We will lose the market if the government allows export of rice to India," he added.
Source: http://thenews.jang.com.pk/updates.asp?id=42513
energy is need number 1.
Without electricty everything will go down the drain. We need to focus ourselves on getting this and other dams built
Without electricty everything will go down the drain. We need to focus ourselves on getting this and other dams built
QUOTE(platinum786 @ Apr 3 2008, 05:34 PM) 
energy is need number 1.
Without electricty everything will go down the drain. We need to focus ourselves on getting this and other dams built
Without electricty everything will go down the drain. We need to focus ourselves on getting this and other dams built
Totally agree as i spoke to my family in lahore and they said the they are without electricity nearly around 4 to 5 times and for atleast an hour at a time its the same with work as well you cant work without a generator it is actually difficult to find generators in the market so built dams specially kalabagh
SPEEDY
enjoy
Source for OP?
QUOTE(platinum786 @ Apr 3 2008, 11:34 AM)
energy is need number 1.
Without electricty everything will go down the drain. We need to focus ourselves on getting this and other dams built
Without electricty everything will go down the drain. We need to focus ourselves on getting this and other dams built
The problem is, dams will take a few years (minimum) to be constructed. Best thing to do in the extreme short run is build coal and gas powered plants (on a significant scale). Dams however should be the top priority and should begin development/construction immediately so within 5 years we will see energy surplus. Not to mention, dams will help us for irrigation purposes and therefore raise the amount of food grown within the country (this will help fight inflation and increase exports). Instead of asking countries like KSA, UAE and China for money to help with the budget problems we should ask for significant loans to set up these dams.
Pakistan and China to sign MoU for Basha Dam financing
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan and China are set to sign Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) in the next week to seek soft loan from China for carrying out the construction Diamer Bhasha Dam project, official sources in Water and Power Ministry told Daily Times on Thursday.
Sources told that President Pervez Musharraf would visit China on April 8 to 10 according to tentative schedule and two sides would sign MOU for Bhasha dam financing.
They said that Pakistani authorities would present the draft of detailed engineering design to the Chinese authorities to seek loan for the construction of Bhasha dam. “After analysing the draft design of the dam, China will give comments on it and offer the loan for the dam construction,” official added.
Sources said that World Bank’s terms and conditions for the loan for the construction of such mega project are tight and keeping in view that scenario Pakistan has decided to seek loan from China that would offer loan on soft terms and conditions.
Sources said that the whole funding would not be generated from China and however major chunk of the money would come from it after MOU signed between two countries. They said that China would be a main player in joint venture for generating financing for the construction of Bhasha dam.
When asked whether China would participate in the construction of the project, sources said, that China would want to take award of the construction of the dam project because it has been the policy of china to take project for the construction for which it provides financing.
Chinese state run company Dong Fong has recently signed the contract with Pakistan for carrying out the 525MW gas based thermal power plant at Chichoki Mallian and it is also working on 450MW power project at Nandipur (Gujranwala). Chinese company has the experience of working on dam also like Gomal Zam dam and China may take the project for the construction, sources added. Chinese company is also working Neelum-Jhelum Hydropower Project.
Sources said that Pakistan would also sign agreement with Chinese Company Sino Coal that is willing to work on coal in Thar. The Chinese company will initiate the project of coal in Thar, sources added.
The Chinese company, Shenhua after spending three years rolled back from the project for mining coal in Thar. The company has spent around 25 million dollars during the project on the construction of road, water and power availability. When it mined the coal that was not of high quality, the company was further asked to further process the coal but company denied and rolled back, sources said. Now, Chinese Company Sino Coal is willing to work on coal projects in Thar and agreement would be signed with the company during upcoming President Pervez Musharraf visit to China, sources added.
By Zafar Bhutta
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p..._4-4-2008_pg5_8
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan and China are set to sign Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) in the next week to seek soft loan from China for carrying out the construction Diamer Bhasha Dam project, official sources in Water and Power Ministry told Daily Times on Thursday.
Sources told that President Pervez Musharraf would visit China on April 8 to 10 according to tentative schedule and two sides would sign MOU for Bhasha dam financing.
They said that Pakistani authorities would present the draft of detailed engineering design to the Chinese authorities to seek loan for the construction of Bhasha dam. “After analysing the draft design of the dam, China will give comments on it and offer the loan for the dam construction,” official added.
Sources said that World Bank’s terms and conditions for the loan for the construction of such mega project are tight and keeping in view that scenario Pakistan has decided to seek loan from China that would offer loan on soft terms and conditions.
Sources said that the whole funding would not be generated from China and however major chunk of the money would come from it after MOU signed between two countries. They said that China would be a main player in joint venture for generating financing for the construction of Bhasha dam.
When asked whether China would participate in the construction of the project, sources said, that China would want to take award of the construction of the dam project because it has been the policy of china to take project for the construction for which it provides financing.
Chinese state run company Dong Fong has recently signed the contract with Pakistan for carrying out the 525MW gas based thermal power plant at Chichoki Mallian and it is also working on 450MW power project at Nandipur (Gujranwala). Chinese company has the experience of working on dam also like Gomal Zam dam and China may take the project for the construction, sources added. Chinese company is also working Neelum-Jhelum Hydropower Project.
Sources said that Pakistan would also sign agreement with Chinese Company Sino Coal that is willing to work on coal in Thar. The Chinese company will initiate the project of coal in Thar, sources added.
The Chinese company, Shenhua after spending three years rolled back from the project for mining coal in Thar. The company has spent around 25 million dollars during the project on the construction of road, water and power availability. When it mined the coal that was not of high quality, the company was further asked to further process the coal but company denied and rolled back, sources said. Now, Chinese Company Sino Coal is willing to work on coal projects in Thar and agreement would be signed with the company during upcoming President Pervez Musharraf visit to China, sources added.
By Zafar Bhutta
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p..._4-4-2008_pg5_8
Pakistan: Ministers refuse to join Musharraf on China tour
President Pervez Musharraf will make a six-day state visit to China next week, but some of his cabinet ministers have refused to accompany him on the visit.
According to Pakistani daily, Dawn, the rebel ministers belong to the opposition Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) party of former prime minister Nawaz Sharaz.
“President Musharraf will pay a state visit to China from April 10 to 15 at the invitation of Chinese President Hu Jintao,” foreign office spokesman Muhammad Sadiq said on Thursday.
He said the visit was part of regular high-level interaction between the two countries and reflected their close relations.
Replying to a question about members of the delegation, Sadiq said the matter was still being finalised.
But sources said that the delay was caused by refusal of some PML-N ministers, including finance minister Ishaq Dar, who turned down the presidency’s request to be in the delegation. Dar is said to have communicated his decision to prime minister Yusuf Raza Gillani.
“The finance minister has opted out of the visit saying he has to attend an ‘important meeting’ of the World Bank and the IMF,” the sources said.
The visit is the first by Musharraf after the formation of the new government. Last month, the president cancelled a visit to Senegal.
Dawn said the president’s programme in China includes talks with President Hu Jintao and meetings with Premier Wen Jiabao and other leaders.
The president and the Chinese leadership will review bilateral relations and discuss regional issues and international developments.
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Polit...=1.0.2038977556
President Pervez Musharraf will make a six-day state visit to China next week, but some of his cabinet ministers have refused to accompany him on the visit.
According to Pakistani daily, Dawn, the rebel ministers belong to the opposition Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) party of former prime minister Nawaz Sharaz.
“President Musharraf will pay a state visit to China from April 10 to 15 at the invitation of Chinese President Hu Jintao,” foreign office spokesman Muhammad Sadiq said on Thursday.
He said the visit was part of regular high-level interaction between the two countries and reflected their close relations.
Replying to a question about members of the delegation, Sadiq said the matter was still being finalised.
But sources said that the delay was caused by refusal of some PML-N ministers, including finance minister Ishaq Dar, who turned down the presidency’s request to be in the delegation. Dar is said to have communicated his decision to prime minister Yusuf Raza Gillani.
“The finance minister has opted out of the visit saying he has to attend an ‘important meeting’ of the World Bank and the IMF,” the sources said.
The visit is the first by Musharraf after the formation of the new government. Last month, the president cancelled a visit to Senegal.
Dawn said the president’s programme in China includes talks with President Hu Jintao and meetings with Premier Wen Jiabao and other leaders.
The president and the Chinese leadership will review bilateral relations and discuss regional issues and international developments.
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Polit...=1.0.2038977556
Has the work started yet?
Omar : For the world a united Pakistan is an emerging market. Any party or minister who is not agreeing to it means they are destabilizing Pakistan.
I hope all he govt. bodies work together to show that we are united and this would mean more & more investment in Pakistan.
Also this visit to China is very important as you observe WB is showing it's true colour regarding financing one of the most important blood line for Pakistan (electricity) !
I hope all he govt. bodies work together to show that we are united and this would mean more & more investment in Pakistan.
Also this visit to China is very important as you observe WB is showing it's true colour regarding financing one of the most important blood line for Pakistan (electricity) !
QUOTE(Captain Bribes @ Apr 3 2008, 09:50 AM)
This is exactly why we should not waste a second with regard to building dams, the longer we leave it the more the country suffers and the bigger the bill will be, Where are the pakistani democrats now???
How do you figure?
I doubt the cost is dependent of time, unless the materials/work used to build the dam had a change in value over the years.
In the 2-3 years, the design must've been altered, hence leading to a change a in cost (or change in value of resources, which can also make the project cheaper than before).
Back to the OLD DAYS, in the CLUTCHES OF IMF & WORLD BANK.....
The NEW (yet Old) Finance minister is clueless abobout economics, etc....
Bring Back Shaukat Aziz......
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THE government has decided to borrow $520m from Standard Chartered and the IMF to finance oil imports and the budget deficit. The IMF will provide $220m in soft loans and Standard Chartered will give $300 million in hard-term loans. This plan is being questioned by the people.
The IMF generally provides loans to steady transactions in member countries affected by natural disasters and other causes. The lending agency last provided such ‘emergency loans’ in the wake of the 1998 floods. Similarly, the past coalition government had borrowed from Standard Chartered to help the finance oil import. The government seems to be running short of funds. Huge spending on rehabilitation in the aftermath of the twin floods and Cyclone Sidr seems to have depleted government funds. Subsidies on oil increased as crude prices rose in the international market.
It appears that the military-backed government will not tighten its belt any time soon. In fact, government spending is climbing. Generally the government borrows from local banks but there is a risk: higher inflation. This is part of the reason why the government chose a foreign bank. Moreover, local banks do not want to sign loans for BPC.
The spending plan is set to weigh on the next budget and the next administration will bear the brunt. A question lingers: was the decision wise? — (April 3)
http://www.dawn.com/2008/04/05/ed.htm
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Instead of going to China with President to sign a Historic Deal for financing the great Basha Diamer Dam and other Energy related project, our new (yet old) finance minister Ishaq Daaaaar
(Daru pi kay dhutt) will signing a contract for the above....
Not goot for the Economy or the Country
The NEW (yet Old) Finance minister is clueless abobout economics, etc....
Bring Back Shaukat Aziz......
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THE government has decided to borrow $520m from Standard Chartered and the IMF to finance oil imports and the budget deficit. The IMF will provide $220m in soft loans and Standard Chartered will give $300 million in hard-term loans. This plan is being questioned by the people.
The IMF generally provides loans to steady transactions in member countries affected by natural disasters and other causes. The lending agency last provided such ‘emergency loans’ in the wake of the 1998 floods. Similarly, the past coalition government had borrowed from Standard Chartered to help the finance oil import. The government seems to be running short of funds. Huge spending on rehabilitation in the aftermath of the twin floods and Cyclone Sidr seems to have depleted government funds. Subsidies on oil increased as crude prices rose in the international market.
It appears that the military-backed government will not tighten its belt any time soon. In fact, government spending is climbing. Generally the government borrows from local banks but there is a risk: higher inflation. This is part of the reason why the government chose a foreign bank. Moreover, local banks do not want to sign loans for BPC.
The spending plan is set to weigh on the next budget and the next administration will bear the brunt. A question lingers: was the decision wise? — (April 3)
http://www.dawn.com/2008/04/05/ed.htm
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Instead of going to China with President to sign a Historic Deal for financing the great Basha Diamer Dam and other Energy related project, our new (yet old) finance minister Ishaq Daaaaar
(Daru pi kay dhutt) will signing a contract for the above....Not goot for the Economy or the Country
QUOTE(omarleeds @ Apr 4 2008, 03:21 PM)
Pakistan: Ministers refuse to join Musharraf on China tour
President Pervez Musharraf will make a six-day state visit to China next week, but some of his cabinet ministers have refused to accompany him on the visit.
According to Pakistani daily, Dawn, the rebel ministers belong to the opposition Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) party of former prime minister Nawaz Sharaz.
"President Musharraf will pay a state visit to China from April 10 to 15 at the invitation of Chinese President Hu Jintao," foreign office spokesman Muhammad Sadiq said on Thursday.
He said the visit was part of regular high-level interaction between the two countries and reflected their close relations.
Replying to a question about members of the delegation, Sadiq said the matter was still being finalised.
But sources said that the delay was caused by refusal of some PML-N ministers, including finance minister Ishaq Dar, who turned down the presidency's request to be in the delegation. Dar is said to have communicated his decision to prime minister Yusuf Raza Gillani.
"The finance minister has opted out of the visit saying he has to attend an 'important meeting' of the World Bank and the IMF," the sources said.
The visit is the first by Musharraf after the formation of the new government. Last month, the president cancelled a visit to Senegal.
Dawn said the president's programme in China includes talks with President Hu Jintao and meetings with Premier Wen Jiabao and other leaders.
The president and the Chinese leadership will review bilateral relations and discuss regional issues and international developments.
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Polit...=1.0.2038977556
President Pervez Musharraf will make a six-day state visit to China next week, but some of his cabinet ministers have refused to accompany him on the visit.
According to Pakistani daily, Dawn, the rebel ministers belong to the opposition Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) party of former prime minister Nawaz Sharaz.
"President Musharraf will pay a state visit to China from April 10 to 15 at the invitation of Chinese President Hu Jintao," foreign office spokesman Muhammad Sadiq said on Thursday.
He said the visit was part of regular high-level interaction between the two countries and reflected their close relations.
Replying to a question about members of the delegation, Sadiq said the matter was still being finalised.
But sources said that the delay was caused by refusal of some PML-N ministers, including finance minister Ishaq Dar, who turned down the presidency's request to be in the delegation. Dar is said to have communicated his decision to prime minister Yusuf Raza Gillani.
"The finance minister has opted out of the visit saying he has to attend an 'important meeting' of the World Bank and the IMF," the sources said.
The visit is the first by Musharraf after the formation of the new government. Last month, the president cancelled a visit to Senegal.
Dawn said the president's programme in China includes talks with President Hu Jintao and meetings with Premier Wen Jiabao and other leaders.
The president and the Chinese leadership will review bilateral relations and discuss regional issues and international developments.
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Polit...=1.0.2038977556
Sick and tired of the PML-N attitude! All this useless moaning! They don't want to work with anyone, but themselves. No wonder even PPP has made it clear that by accepting MQM there are other options. NS needs to get his act together and better start working with Musharraf and other parties or he'll be ditched. This Dar guy has started to ###### me off even more.
Sick and tired of the PML-N attitude! All this useless moaning! They don't want to work with anyone, but themselves. No wonder even PPP has made it clear that by accepting MQM there are other options. NS needs to get his act together and better start working with Musharraf and other parties or he'll be ditched. This Dar guy has started to ###### me off even more.
Under the NS regime I remember Pakistan had taken a loan at 20% interest per anum !
It would be very interesting to know the rate at which the above loan has been procured !
I was hoping that a couple of days of holla bulla would have brought some sane attitude to PML-N .. but jeez .. nothing has trouble him as yet !
Under the NS regime I remember Pakistan had taken a loan at 20% interest per anum !
It would be very interesting to know the rate at which the above loan has been procured !
I was hoping that a couple of days of holla bulla would have brought some sane attitude to PML-N .. but jeez .. nothing has trouble him as yet !
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