http://pkpolitics.com/2008/04/07/live-with...t-7-april-2008/

JUST WATCH AFTER 15 MIN AND YOU WILL BE ASTONISHED.

I have given 1.9% but govt put figure of 9% wow its simply amazing.

regards

any one comment pls.

where are Shortcut Aziz lovers?????

Do you expect us to sit there and watch a tv programme to discuss with you? Summarize it.

view last few minutes or i ll explain it tommorrow inshallah
regards

PK Politics site hates the military and anything not liberal. I was a former visitor. I will watch vid later.

I bet it uses evidence selectively. Looks for the negatives whilst ignoring positives. Khawarkhan when summarising vid please outline the sources cited so we can properly scrutinise claim.

Talat is a batameez host, i have seen his shows in the past and can't be bothered now.

However, no matter which way you slice it two things cannot be denied

1 - The stock market keeps performing brilliantly, i.e. the fundamentals set by SA were great
2 - Stock market is the single most crutial litmus test for any economy.


In conclusion, SA didn't do too bad when the only stock marking doing well in the face of a global recession is KSE.

khawarkhan do you think the reason why no one replys to your posts, is because you cliam to have a masters in economics but don't even know the basics about economics.

Anyway the programme you linked to talks about the food crisis and the rise in the price of wheat but it does not ONCE mention the cause of the rise in the worldwide price in food, that of the impact of the increase in demand for biofuel which has lead to a increase in the price of maize, wheat and rice.

Instead everyone in the programme just attacks the former government

After 22 minutes one of the panel members claims that the former government inflated the growth rate of the life stock sector from 1.9 % up to 9 %

Lets look at the actual figures.

http://www.sbp.org.pk/ecodata/index2.asp
Please check Gross Domestic Product

Lifestock (Rs million)

1999-2000 417,120
2000-01 433,066
2001-02 448,968
2002-03 460,495
2003-04 473,771
2004-05 484,876
2005-06 521,423
2006-07 543,698

Growth rate in lifestock sector

1999-2000
2000-01 3.82%
2001-02 3.67%
2002-03 2.57%
2003-04 2.88%
2004-05 2.34%
2005-06 7.54%
2006-07 4.27%

As you can see the government NEVER showed a 9% growth in the lifestock sector, infact the government has shown growth rates in this sector as low as 2.5%, if it did want to inflate the figure to give the impression of a economic boom, it seems to have done a very bad job at it.

khawarkhan you need to produce FACTS and FIGURE rather than RANTS and RAVES for people to start taking you serious.

Don't question Mr. Khawar's Two masters in economics or was it 5?

else he will accuse you of personally hating him ...

Why would anyone need two masters?

I think I have found what university Mr Khawar went to

http://www.instant-degrees.net/

I hope he got value for money

Great post!

But what can you expect from people like Khwar khan who start and finish their life with these two sentences "It was God's will. Agencies are behind everything"

ya very good post wow i never said that they gave economy figues but how to get rosy pictures just an example hahaha what a way to hide frustation.

Instantexcess it is for you also that it just gave you idea how figures were quoted lol if you cant hear talat what else anchor person do u like but for mushy lovers sorry just advice to switch off tv and radio.

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if it was only rants why jahangir tareen was like red rose and said aap to andar k admi hain and never denied, ya you can remeber my degrees but cant figure out simple lie and if no 9% is there but not 1% i cant find also.

but instead of discussing u can only rant but what is your choice

regards

He gave you figures and you still call it ranting...

where are Shortcut Aziz lovers?????

Just today I talked to a drum producer in UAE (Fujariah Steel Drum L.L.C.) iron rolled sheets of 5mm was comming at 700US $ / tonne from Japan .. this is the price of his last consignment .. In April .. they are getting nothing less than 1,100 US $ .. 35% increase .. SA made the budget 9 - 10 months back .. people cannot even make budget in 4 months !

if shaukat aziz is a nincanpoop, he wouldnt have been working for citi bank as its vice president

Whatsup with this name shortcut? Cant you have a civilized discussion or what?

Great Post!

We can fool some people some of the time but can't fool all people all the time. Millions of Pakistanis risking their life saving plus local and foreign investment firms, banks, insurance companies, mutual funds, retirement funds, etc. are all wrong but PPP 'jayalas' are always right!

This mentality of 'me, my party and my community first and F every thing above and beyond' never seizes to amaze me.

Some 'seth' in Karachi has cornered the market and making all the money! No 'seth' is rich enough to corner the whole market.

Market went from roughly 1,500 points to 15,000 and it was all fudged/fluke and now PPP is going to fix it! You don't fix what ain't broke. You may mess it up; like in past, but economy was doing fine until PPP stepped in.

By the way, I am not the only one who is saying this. Business people are quite worried recalling track record of PPP.

Mr Khawar thank you for another rant.

Let me use your logic, so Jahangir Tareen did bother do deny the false claims made by the other panellist so you then assume that this must mean that the claims are true.

In the same way as you have not denied the claim that you bought your master degree off the internet, this must mean that I was correct when I said your 'master' degree was bought off ebay or some dodgy website.

As for figuring out simple lies, it was not too difficult to spot your lie about having 2 'master' degrees.

Anyway I not going to reply to any of you post because I do not want to waste my time on someone who is so clueless.

brother aoa

its nothing to take with SA we have to accept that he gave exagurated figures of our economy he gave figures which were not related to reality, i except that cost has gone up in whole world but you cant compare it with pakistan situation this was very strong point of SA govt on which they asked votes every one took me wrong here i mean to say i never said that price rise in world is due to SA, but i mean to say they all portray rosy and every thing is fit and evry indicator is up to mark, who ever oppose thier figures they kicked him out. if he was so damm good economist why cant he predict electricity shortage if he had predicted than why he didnt take steps to prevent these crises, so he is equally a culprit of ppl of pakistans problems.

My teacher who was in PIED (he is not there now) on my question on Pakistan Economy, He told me like its ok, but it is not what it is being portrayed. and we will be in trouble soon, this was words of a person who was always included in Financial advisors commitee or briefings to cabinate or PM. and he left PIED just coz of outspoken person he speaks against wrong information.

regards

its nothing to take with SA we have to accept that he gave exagurated figures of our economy he gave figures which were not related to reality, i except that cost has gone up in whole world but you cant compare it with pakistan situation this was very strong point of SA govt on which they asked votes every one took me wrong here i mean to say i never said that price rise in world is due to SA, but i mean to say they all portray rosy and every thing is fit and evry indicator is up to mark, who ever oppose thier figures they kicked him out. if he was so damm good economist why cant he predict electricity shortage if he had predicted than why he didnt take steps to prevent these crises, so he is equally a culprit of ppl of pakistans problems.

My teacher who was in PIED (he is not there now) on my question on Pakistan Economy, He told me like its ok, but it is not what it is being portrayed. and we will be in trouble soon, this was words of a person who was always included in Financial advisors commitee or briefings to cabinate or PM. and he left PIED just coz of outspoken person he speaks against wrong information.

KK Bro .. just tell me in last year (2007) we had hardly any economic gains due to continous problems of elections .. We all knew that last year was lost to problems.

In today's world people cannot afford a days off and we are saying Pakistan was out of real work for at least year .. would this not effect our economic standing !

Coming back again the question Electrical contracts were not signed agreed but what alternatively did we manage coal projects no .. due to bickering of internal organization including locals & mind you contractors ran away after their engineer got killed etc. .. Plus all the process had to pass through legitimate tendering structure .. had any contract been signed on fast track basis Supreme court could have cancelled it .. In today's inflation related times, no contract is going to wait another 6 months for approval etc etc and in between we will have suicide bombers ..

Also we were hoping of nuclear contract, this did not happen !

Again the question is rosy pictures are there to be shown because that's how you attract foreign investment .. otherwise what do you think would be "India Shining" or do you see USA accepting that every 2 minutes there is a rape case in their country !

However, once again the question is where did SA got involved in corrupt practices ?