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KARACHI: Another impetus was added to Pakistan Navy's fighting capability Saturday, when one Fokker aircraft and two Alouette helicopters were inducted into Pakistan Naval Aviation.
An ISPR (Navy) press release here on Saturday said that these aircraft were formally made part of PN Fleet in an impressive ceremony held at Pakistan Naval Aviation Base PNS Mehran.
Chief of the Naval Staff, Admiral Muhammad Afzal Tahir, was the chief guest on the occasion.
Pakistan Navy has modified its Fokker aircraft with state of the art sensors and weapons for use in maritime operations.
Newly inducted Fokker was acquired form PIA, which had grounded its Fokker Fleet in 2000.
The contract with PIA also included two additional Fokkers for spare support and transfer of associated maintenance facilities.
The event also marked the induction of first batch of two Alouette Helicopter.
Pakistan Navy contracted a private firm in UK for acquisition of six marinized Alouettes. These helicopters will operate form ships and can be employed for multiple roles.
The remaining four helicopters will also arrive in Pakistan by last quarter of the current year.
Addressing the ceremony, Admiral Tahir said that the prevailing geo political scenario and security environment warrants that Pakistan Navy, besides ensuring war time preparedness, is also ready to undertake wide range of operation during peace time either independently or as part of coalition.
In this respect, the Naval Chief continued, one major ongoing activity is uninterrupted participation in coalition Maritime Campaign plan by Pakistan Navy.
Chief of the Naval Staff said that with the induction of new platforms, Pakistan Navy will undergo a major change and rise to all future challenges with continued dedication and highest degree of professionalism.
He apprised that in next few years PN Air Arm strength will almost be doubled with the induction of more P3Cs,Alouette helicopters and force multiplier AEW aircraft.
He also pointed out that another significant project of acquiring fixed and rotary wing UAVs to add to Navy's surveillance capability.
The ceremony was concluded with a spectacular fly past of newly inducted Fokker and Alouette aircraft. Among others, the ceremony was also attended by Commander Pakistan Fleet Vice Admiral Noman Bashir.
Full Version: Fokker Aircraft, Alouette Helicopters Inducted In Pn
why the fokkers??!!!! they'r more like flying coffins nowadays!! who flies them for naval missions anyways??...what kind of modifications have been made??...plus i heard that the navy was trying to phase out these choppers...why buy the new ones?...v cudve bought some more z-9s?!...i guess they are prolly better at anti shippin role or sth!! or this deal is to stabilize our requirements for the immediate short term?!...i hope v can get somebody like Mark Sien for his comments on this one!
SAABS AEW Aircraft - with 2 Gripens at her side.....Inshallah it is only matter of time where instead of gripens, JF17s will be flying by her side near the beaches of Pakistan....
Fokker F27 PIA-Scheme, year 2000 this has most probably been a "homemade" technology where Pakistan can get experience and be less dependent on other countries....e.g. US, since it has plans to sell PC3 orions to India...and develop the Fokker F27 to the Orion
PC3 orion in US-Navy Scheme, which I'm sure Pakistan Navy will get to at this level, Inshallah
Don't underestimate the PN, PAF - they know what they are doing, trust their decisions.
Info on civilian F27 :
Crew: Two or three
Capacity: 52-56 passengers
[b][b]Length: 25.06 m (82 ft 2½ in) Wingspan: 29.00 m (95 ft 1¾ in)
Height: 8.72 m (28 ft 7¼ in) Wing area: 70.07 m² (754 ft²) [/b]
Max takeoff weight: 19,773 kg (43,500 lb) [/b]
Info on P3C Orion:
Crew: 11
[b]Length: 116 ft 10 in (35.6 m)
Wingspan: 99 ft 8 in (30.4 m)
Height: 33 ft 8.5 in (10.3 m)
Wing area: 1300 ft² (120.8 m²) Airfoil: NACA 0014-1.10 (Root) - NACA 0012-1.10 (Tip)
Max takeoff weight: 142,000 lb (64,400 kg) [/b]
Info on civilian SAAB 340:
Crew: 2 pilots, 1 flight attendant
Capacity: 30, 33, 34 or 36 passengers
[b]Length: 19.73 m (64 ft 9 in)
Wingspan: 21.44 m (70 ft 4 in)
[b]Height: 6.97 m (22 ft 11 in) [/b]Max. takeoff weight: 13,155 kg (29,000 lb) [/b]
What I see is that PAF has aimed at the design of the aircraft with given minimum till maximum physical points compared to:
a) P3C-Orion
b) SAAB AEW
which they have focused on the national remodified built F27s.. (i am not sure if they are built in PK, could anyone clear that for me, please thanks.)
We have given info that the heights differ from: From 6,97-10,3 metres
The Wingspan: From 20-30 metres
The Length: From 19,73-35,6 metres
The Max. takeoff weights: 13,155 kg-19,733 kg-65,400 kg
Technical Info on SAABS AEW
Technical info on the Orion
Technicalinfo on the Fokker F27
So I would guess that the F27 has been remodified, stripped everything from the inside and rebuilt with military hardware and going to be tested and developed till the project becomes on a international level like the SAABS AEW or P3C - then finally jointventured with the Chinese...
This is my personal view and research, others may find it wrong but that's because they are the experts :-)
Peace
Fokker F27 PIA-Scheme, year 2000 this has most probably been a "homemade" technology where Pakistan can get experience and be less dependent on other countries....e.g. US, since it has plans to sell PC3 orions to India...and develop the Fokker F27 to the Orion
PC3 orion in US-Navy Scheme, which I'm sure Pakistan Navy will get to at this level, Inshallah
Don't underestimate the PN, PAF - they know what they are doing, trust their decisions.
Info on civilian F27 :
Crew: Two or three
Capacity: 52-56 passengers
[b][b]Length: 25.06 m (82 ft 2½ in) Wingspan: 29.00 m (95 ft 1¾ in)
Height: 8.72 m (28 ft 7¼ in) Wing area: 70.07 m² (754 ft²) [/b]
Max takeoff weight: 19,773 kg (43,500 lb) [/b]
Info on P3C Orion:
Crew: 11
[b]Length: 116 ft 10 in (35.6 m)
Wingspan: 99 ft 8 in (30.4 m)
Height: 33 ft 8.5 in (10.3 m)
Wing area: 1300 ft² (120.8 m²) Airfoil: NACA 0014-1.10 (Root) - NACA 0012-1.10 (Tip)
Max takeoff weight: 142,000 lb (64,400 kg) [/b]
Info on civilian SAAB 340:
Crew: 2 pilots, 1 flight attendant
Capacity: 30, 33, 34 or 36 passengers
[b]Length: 19.73 m (64 ft 9 in)
Wingspan: 21.44 m (70 ft 4 in)
[b]Height: 6.97 m (22 ft 11 in) [/b]Max. takeoff weight: 13,155 kg (29,000 lb) [/b]
What I see is that PAF has aimed at the design of the aircraft with given minimum till maximum physical points compared to:
a) P3C-Orion
b) SAAB AEW
which they have focused on the national remodified built F27s.. (i am not sure if they are built in PK, could anyone clear that for me, please thanks.)
We have given info that the heights differ from: From 6,97-10,3 metres
The Wingspan: From 20-30 metres
The Length: From 19,73-35,6 metres
The Max. takeoff weights: 13,155 kg-19,733 kg-65,400 kg
Technical Info on SAABS AEW
Technical info on the Orion
Technicalinfo on the Fokker F27
So I would guess that the F27 has been remodified, stripped everything from the inside and rebuilt with military hardware and going to be tested and developed till the project becomes on a international level like the SAABS AEW or P3C - then finally jointventured with the Chinese...
This is my personal view and research, others may find it wrong but that's because they are the experts :-)
Peace
Ex-PIA Fokkers have been part of PN for quite some time now, nothing new.
The Chinese have improvised and fitted some equipment in them and they fly around like recon planes.
The Chinese have improvised and fitted some equipment in them and they fly around like recon planes.
Yeah they are used by PN since 1980s for martime survilliance! They hav just boosted up the deal
OMG as if things couldnt get worse now we are inducting fokkers and alouette helicopters PN must be desperate.
These are just old PIA aircrafts, militarized and moved to PN for a really low cost I guess, so no probs 
Both PAF & PN frequently take in a/c from PIA. I think PAF still operates a 707 they picked off PIA a couple of decades back.
Than you gets threads like "Pakistan armed forces are too bloated"
Than you gets threads like "Pakistan armed forces are too bloated"
QUOTE(instantexcess @ Apr 25 2008, 10:26 AM) 
I think PAF still operates a 707 they picked off PIA a couple of decades back.
Nah grounded, those were 4 cockpit crew equipments.
Last they were used were with Australian AF for the Earthquake relief
QUOTE(THE FIGHTING FALCON @ Apr 12 2008, 10:09 PM)
why the fokkers??!!!! they'r more like flying coffins nowadays!! who flies them for naval missions anyways??...what kind of modifications have been made??...plus i heard that the navy was trying to phase out these choppers...why buy the new ones?...v cudve bought some more z-9s?!...i guess they are prolly better at anti shippin role or sth!! or this deal is to stabilize our requirements for the immediate short term?!...i hope v can get somebody like Mark Sien for his comments on this one!
http://www.geocities.com/lucktam/awacs/fokker/fokker.htm
http://www.stork.com/eCache/DEF/5/432.html
F27 Maritime (unarmed version for assignments at coastal overseeing, search and rescue and environmental control) dates from the late 1970s and was ordered by:
Peruvian Navy (2)
Thailandese Navy(3)
Aviations of Angola (1)
Filippines (3)
Nigeria (2)
Netherlands (2)
Spain (3)
When the production of F27 ended, in 1996, similar versions were offered of the new Fokker 50/60, called new Maritime Enforcer Mk 2. Ordered by
Singapore (5)
Netherlands (2, in 2005 when P3 Orions were phased out).
In 2006, PIA pilots were quoted as saying they loved it (F27) for its easy handling and good flight safety record.
http://nation.com.pk/daily/july-2006/22/columns3.php
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