http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/may2008-daily/...-2008/index.htm


basically news says

Range 350km
Air launched
air to ground (which i dont understand. its like specifying a mortar shell is g2g)l!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


keep making them and testing them. more tests means more inventory :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJNppgV7tFk

just a clip for it.

Pakistan successfully test Cruise Missile, Hatf-VIII
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RAWALPINDI (updated on: May 08, 2008, 09:09 PST): Pakistan successful tested Cruise Missile, Hatf-VIII (Ra’ad) on Thursday.

The missile test is part of a continuing process of validating the design parameters of the weapon system. The indigenously developed Ra’ad with a range of 350 kms, has been developed exclusively for launch from Aerial Platforms, it has enabled Pakistan to achieve a greater strategic stand off capability on land and at sea.

It is worth mentioning that the complex Cruise Missile technology has been developed by only a few countries of the world. The state of the art Ra’ad Cruise Missile has special stealth capabilities. It is a Low Altitude, Terrain Following Missile with high maneuverability, and can deliver all types of warheads, with great accuracy.

In an exclusive message, President Pervez Musharraf and Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani have congratulated the scientists and engineers on their outstanding success.

Hahahhah WTF.

Mate! its not Hanif-8 but actually is Hatf-VIII or Hatf-8

hahahaahhha shut the f##k up.

Pakistan test-fires cruise missile


Pakistan on Thursday conducted successful flight test of the indigenously developed Air Launched Cruise Missile, the army said.

The test of Hatf-VIII (Ra'ad) or thunder is part of a continuing process of validating the design parameters of the weapon system, an army statement said.

The indigenously developed Ra'ad with a range of 350 kms, has been developed exclusively for launch from Aerial Platforms, it has enabled Pakistan to achieve a greater strategic stand off capability on land and at sea.

"It is worth mentioning that the complex Cruise Missile technology has been developed by only a few countries of the world," the statement by the army's Inter-Services Public Relations said.

"The state of the art Ra'ad Cruise Missile has special stealth capabilities".

It is a Low Altitude, Terrain Following Missile with high maneuverability, and can deliver all types of warheads, with great accuracy, the statement said.

In an exclusive message, President Pervez Musharraf and Prime Minister Syed Yousaf Raza Gilani have congratulated the scientists and engineers on their outstanding success.

Pak responds to India's Agni test, fires Hatf-VIII
indian barking started



Pakistan on Thursday test-fired the nuclear-capable Hatf-VIII air-launched cruise missile, which the military said would enhance its capability to strike at targets on land and at sea.

The test of the Hatf-VIII or Raad missile, which has a range of 350 kilometres, was part of a 'continuing process of validating the design parameters of the weapon system', said a statement from the military. The statement did not say where the missile was tested.

Describing the launch as successful, it said the indigenously developed missile had 'special stealth capabilities'.

It statement said the Raad, which means 'thunder' in Arabic, was a low-altitude, terrain following missile with high manoeuvrability and could deliver all types of warheads 'with great accuracy'.

The Raad, exclusively developed for launch from aerial platforms, 'has enabled Pakistan to achieve a greater strategic stand-off capability on land and at sea', the statement said, adding such complex cruise missile technology has been developed by 'only a few countries of the world'.

In a message, President Pervez Musharraf [Images] and Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani congratulated scientists and engineers on their success in the test.

The Raad was tested for the first time in August last year. Officials earlier said that the missile had a very low probability of detection due to its stealth design and the materials used in its construction.

Pakistan has conducted a series of missile tests in the past few months. The test of the Raad came a day after India successfully launched ballistic missile Agni-III which has a range of 3,500 km.



http://ia.rediff.com/news/2008/may/08pak.htm

read comments lol

Don't worry Pluto! Hatif-VIII is also not indented for any specific country. :)

Its your people who start this 'in response to the great india...' thing. Its a rediff source. No pakistani source says anything semblable to an arms race. Your countrymen are fueling all these arms races.
Anyway a response to a long-range ballistic missile can't be a precision munition can it?

Did we ask you whether Agni III may or may not be used against Pakistan?

must 7

This is a air to ground CM, others are Ground to Ground like Babur, it can also be SLCM ..


The point was if it is air platform based then it is going to be air to ground :)

Wow great news. Waiting for the pics!!

We need to test it in real operations with live warheads, preferably on an enemy. Pakistan should also use them to practise to track and destroy incoming cruise missiles. If we can reduce their size and improve their stealth then Pakistan's arsenal would be formidable. Can they be modified to carry chemical or biological weapons?

which aerial platform was used for this launch?
thanks

Did he ask you wether Agni 3 was pakistani especific or not?

Tamaam Pakistani and Muslims Brothers koo Mubark Hoo.
:)

I, understand that a modified Mirage 111-o was used to launch this 'BEAUTY' !!!!!!!

QUOTE(Erudite @ May 8 2008, 05:43 AM)
which aerial platform was used for this launch?
thanks

I, understand that a modified Mirage 111-o was used to launch this 'BEAUTY' !!!!!!!

Was it a Rose II or Rose III Mirage IIIE !

Pluto, I know where u r cuming from! its a futile argument, they r 2 different weapon systems, 1s a atmospheric delivery based, the other a ground hugger!
The Agni 111 is not Pakistan specific but behyond, its also more of a deterence weapon, where as the Rahad is a surgical strike weapon with capability 2 strike at targets, I.E. u couldnt launch Agni against a battle ship or an army convoy!


Regards

SUNNY92

LOL....

Man one thing abt indias and that is they neva learn.

look at ur source and than read what he said. He said something on the lines of NO PAKISTANI SOURCE claims..

Once the missile is declared operational, it could be launched from various platforms I.E. Mirage, F-16, P-3, Atlantic or the F-27.
Presently Mirage 3 is being used as P.A.F excells in launching Exocet from this platform!

Raad Cruise Missile

http://www.app.com.pk/photo/photo_lib/08-0...814f803fefe.jpg
http://www.app.com.pk/photo/photo_lib/08-0...8faf2df65cf.jpg

Nobody asked you to open your filthy rat mouth. You gotta problem with anything said on this forum about your pathetic $h!t country, india. Then come see me, I personally guarantee that I would hammer your head straight. Now take your $h!t faced existance and f-off, maggot!

what's ur problem....?

why are u explaining all these to me...read the above posts...

You're my problem, maggot and every other rat-indian on this forum. You got something to say to, better think twice about saying to any one of my fellow countrymen and my country.

Ignore Pluto (nice user name-Pluto small indian flag pole is reported small too) and focus on the topic on hand.

ANy more pics or video?

Congrats to all.

First batch of Raad Missiles has just been inducted in Pakistan Armed Forces.

A batch normally consists of 25-50 missiles.

Yeah i indeed did and i was responding to your post since i dont see Pakshaheen offending you or anything at times your way too rude and have a serious attitude problem if somebody says something that doesnt mean you have to act in a rude way as far as you giving me directions back off i indeed read the post and responded in kind!

Great news! Our scientists never disappoint. I love the second pic with the miniature model of Ra'ad ALCM. They should paint it black.

Preferably on Hindus, Christians or Jews, not Muslims.

Alhamdu'lillah.

Mubarrak to the entire Pakistani Civilisation.

Pluto U R pathetic im no explaining 2 U nothing im telling U cause U seem 2 step on 2 many toes. It seems U can't be reasonable with anybody U don't seem 2 present a good mind set or represent a positive image 4 UR country.

Your our problem you little f**king sh1t. You keep trying to derail the topic and you'll find yourself out on your ar5e.

Greattt News...

If you are correct about first batch of RA'AD being inducted then indeed this is great news. These stand-off weapons will help the PAF to strike strategic facilities such as hardened command headquarters, communications centers, air defence positions, bridges or supply points at a distances of over 250 kilometres reducing the risk of Pilots.

I am not too sure that first batch is inducted yet. One thing for sure, once it is inducted it will enable a mirage 5 rose 3 to hit target 1100 km from its base with pin point accuracy. The mirage 5 strike radius is 750 Km add to that 350 km and Pakistan can hit targets 1100 km away.

Wow! First of all Usman thanks for the pics bro...

Next! Common on guys! leave this indi rat on him and enjoy a successful test of Ra'ad.

Dizasta, saying even the right thing rudely makes it (look) wrong.

pluto, that link you posted is an official statement from the GOP. Did they issue a similar one for the Agni3? Sagarika is a threat to everyone as subs can wander to any shore, A3 isn't, using it for such a short range would be an overkill.
I wasn't talking about official statements, but the behaviour of the people from your side: when you test a missile they say 1-pak doesn't have an equivalent (arms race mentality), 2-now lets smack pak with it; and when we test it 1-it must be chinese, 2-they are fueling an arms race; but our people say 1-congrats to pakistani brothers (not an arms race mentality) and (most people off of defence forums) 2-its bad to defend ourselves, why a new weapon, we should be in bed with india. You see its your common people who want to be agressors so your country is.

It tells us that Pakistan is much further then India that only got Brahmos/Yakhunt and all their other product failed terrible...

If 350 km works then it is just for export purpose pr. I bet altering into longer range is a matter of adding fuel... And it tells about avionics development and weapon development in Pakistan. How many nation build their own air launched cruiser?

Don't forget bro, this is just the start in Pakistan. Turkey has already approached us and signed an MoU with us in R&D of low-RCS/stealth airframe designs, turbojet engines, precision-guided munition technology, etc. I think Pakistan will roll out a 'Ra'ad-II' by 2011 - expect serious stealthiness, range and precision in that version. I think the PN also hinted at the development of our own AShM and ASROC...

alhamdulillah, i must say our planners are doing a msart job, very proud of em,

Very interesting, what about a naval version of Ra'ad? Its smaller than babur and seems more ideal for ship launch.

you are right bro. Because of the ALCM Pakistan is way ahead of India...coz Babur and Brahmos are totally different class of missiles and hence no point comparing to one another...but the ALCM tilts the balance in our favor...India doesn't even hav a Stand off weapon of that long range indigenous or imported

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32t1-xVb7dI

For naval purposes...Ra'ad would only be used by aviation platforms. For ships and submarines, a cylinder-shape CM would do for the VLS & torpedo tubes.

I wonder whether there are any plans to research on 'Ram-Jet' technology to power these cruise missiles. Time is everything when striking at the enemy, it was so what Air Marshall Nur Khan contemplated waiting on a day more in responding to indian aggression in 1965. The first strike destroyed the front line indian air base, the only missed opportunity was the lack of dedicated strike aircraft, which would've knocked all indian forward bases.

Ramjet is only efficient at higher speeds. Missile is much heavier and has to carry more fuel than a sub-sonic Cruise Missile. Higher speeds imply shorter time to maneuver the missile to avoid obstructions thus forcing the missile to fly at higher altitudes. Higher altitude and a big IR (Infrared) signature (exhaust + hot leading edges due to the air friction) make such a missile quite un-stealthy. It solely relies on its speed to reach the target without getting intercepted. A depressed trajectory short or medium range ballistic missile with good enough sensors may also be used for similar missions.

Babur and Ra’ad Cruise Missiles move low and slow; virtually hugging the ground to hide in the ground clutter and noise. Their strength is stealth and not the speed.

If we want to develop a Cruise Missile that can have both the options, that is, remain as stealthy as possible if not detected but go hypersonic if there is a radar lock, etc. then it will be a new kind of missile that we may develop in future.

Dizasta,

Denel (South Africa) offered us cooperation/assistance in ramjet technology in 1999, but it is likely that Pakistan would use this technology for AAMs and SAMs. For example Denel recently made the T-Darter official (we've heard of the missile for years) and it will likely be a contemporary of the MBDA Meteor...hence T-Darter may be a ramjet system. This missile can be further developed into a good medium to long-range SAM (50-70km) system as well. The only other area where I see possible ramjet use is in a supersonic AShM similar to the Brahmos.

2 questions:

(i) Can it target a moving object, and/or can it go after diving targets (Ship and subs)?
(ii) What was that missile, in that movie 'Hunt for Red October', parachuted by a chopper into the sea, and then it began it's chase after the sub, what missile was that?

Bro u talking abt Raad. Well answer is no. Both Raad and babur can only target fixed objects and not moving well as far as i knnow and im pretty sure im not wrong.

thats why we talk abt navel version as it would allow us to target ships ie moving objects.