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platinum786
Many of you may have ehard of the term staple foods. Staple foods are defined as "a food that forms the basis of a traditional diet. Most staple foods derive either from cereals such as wheat, barley, rye, maize, or rice, or starchy root vegetables such as potatoes, yams, taro, and cassava." Basicly these are foods that are essential to human survival under normal circumstances.

I think all good countries an economies have staple industries; industries they need to survive. I suggest those are;

- Energy
- Agriculture
- Defence/military
- Electronics and telecoms (computer hardware and software especially)
- Transportation (design and production of modes of transport)
- Banking

It is essential that in these staple industries, that you have the ability to design and produce the products and are capable of innovation.

Today Pakistan is in crisis; if we can take any lesson from this crisis, let it be that we must establish the above mentioned industries and nurish them so they can operate without any need from anyone else o the government etc. Once we have that, the country can never be weak, even if we never receve help from anyone else again.
Mark Sien
I completely agree...but we should also focus on trying to exponentially build our national treasury and reduce deficits by exploring an import-substitution-industrialization (ISI) policy for consumer goods. The import of cell-phones, fridges, electrical goods is going to increase with any growing middle class state, hence we need to get these things produced locally. We can adopt an export-oriented industry for manufactured consumer goods...build up our technical and engineering expertise...adopt ISI to produce cell-phones & TVs locally and export them to poorer markets in Africa, Afghanistan, etc. Create a "domestic-rate export" offer for landlocked countries so they can import those goods at Pakistani rates - essentially increase local employment in the manufacturing sector.

Agriculture, energy and communication need to be brought under more government control to ensure that the local population has access to its life-lines at low rates. Industries related to manufactured consumer goods should be private along with privately founded corporations in aerospace, shipbuilding and R&D. However we should also promote private corporatism for the sake of public enterprise...meaning the state hands out contracts to private elements to build and manage public enterprises into profit making models. In fact, a law should be made to allow only state enterprise to compete internationally for foreign infrastructure, energy, agriculture & military tenders as it would build up our national treasury. For example all fossil fuel refineries in Pakistan are state-owned, but are built by contracted private corporations and managed by contracted CEOs, etc.
platinum786
I like your way of thinking. I don't mind tate tools being managed and built by private firms, but the asset should always belong to the state.

Even if we have privitization it should only be partial so the majority stakeholder is the state, regardless of how rich/strong the other partner is.

The state should have a hand in all of the staple economies, however it should work as a competitor against private institutes too.
Mark Sien
QUOTE(platinum786 @ May 12 2008, 07:47 PM) *
I like your way of thinking. I don't mind tate tools being managed and built by private firms, but the asset should always belong to the state.

Even if we have privitization it should only be partial so the majority stakeholder is the state, regardless of how rich/strong the other partner is.

The state should have a hand in all of the staple economies, however it should work as a competitor against private institutes too.

Nationalizing minerals, coal and gas is pretty justified on our part, but agriculture is a bit of an issue. I think the state should buy up wasteland and deserts at low rates, and turn them into special farming zones. The govt should encourage private competition for contracts in producing wind or solar farms; water irrigation affecting that land; seeds; and my part - homes. For one thing we can push foreign firms from the West to partner up with Pakistani firms to bring in the necessary technology and standards. Secondly, we can build many "green homes" that are based on high effeciency - natural heating, cooling, etc, renewable energy, etc. These homes can be used by the many poor farmers and given govt protection...i.e. free healthcare, education and real protection. Also encourage feudal lords to switch to the industrial era and sell their land to the state...offer preference to manufacturing businessmen and lure farmers onto state land.

The defence indusry will also be key...ultimately I think we should focus PAC & HIT into R&D firms, pilot production and manufacturing partners for private corporations. Things such as engines or very complex/expensive stuff can go through private-public partnerships...we can push for license production of a 1500hp diesel engine, modern turbofan, etc in combination of public-private sector. Multiple private companies could produce specific parts and we can ensure them sustained revenue through our local requirements. These firms have a lot of flexibility to pursue their own R&D on such systems...we can even contract them to produce export-oriented weapons so the state-owned industry can focus more on local-use weapons. Hence JF-17 parts would be produced by these private firms under public contracts, while the fighter is sold by the state at our own set price.

In such a system the private sector will need to work hard to ensure the state treasury builds and expands; but in a lot of other areas such as export-agriculture, consumer goods, and independent ventures would survive exclusive of the public sector. Set up state owned ventures to connect landlocked countries to the sea; poor countries to space (commercial launches); poor folks with fair priced goods; the people with much NEEDED food and fuel at FAIR prices!! We can win the love lol.
waz
QUOTE(Mark Sien @ May 13 2008, 02:13 AM) *
Nationalizing minerals, coal and gas is pretty justified on our part, but agriculture is a bit of an issue. I think the state should buy up wasteland and deserts at low rates, and turn them into special farming zones.


Bro with good irrigation and mechanical farming methods we could quadruple our yield of crops with ease without resorting gin turning vast areas of our barren landscape into fertile regions. It's a great idea but problems arise with access to water, infrastructure to carry fertilizers to the farms etc.


Mark Sien
QUOTE(waz @ May 13 2008, 06:23 PM) *
Bro with good irrigation and mechanical farming methods we could quadruple our yield of crops with ease without resorting gin turning vast areas of our barren landscape into fertile regions. It's a great idea but problems arise with access to water, infrastructure to carry fertilizers to the farms etc.

Bro...the fear I have is that as long as food is private, costs will remain high and we'll be exporting the food our people deserve. A portion enough for domestic use should be government farming to ensure a definite supply in normal times, war and emergencies.

Plus putting govt foods on the market ensures the state receives a good portion of a person's income! No need for income tax.

Food, fuel, energy and minerals should be state controlled and distributed...people spend a lot on these necessities and a consumer-seller relationship with the state could ensure any govt a strong and widespread "tax base" while the people know what their money is worth.
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