WASHINGTON (June 28 2008): The Bush administration said on Friday it was proposing to sell Pakistan ITT Corp electronic warfare gear valued at up to $75 million to enhance Islamabad's existing F-16 fighter aircraft fleet.

Pakistan has asked about buying as many as 21 AN/ALQ-211(V)9 Advanced Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare Suite pods, or AIDEWS, and related equipment, the Pentagon's Defence Security Co-operation Agency said in a notice to lawmakers.

The proposed sale will ensure that the existing fleet is "compatible" with new Lockheed Martin Corp F-16 Block 50/52 fighters being purchased by Islamabad, the notice said.

Electronic warfare targets such things as radars, communications links, computer networks and advanced sensors. The notice of a potential sale is required by US law. It does not mean the sale has been concluded.

http://www.brecorder.com/index.php?id=7618...m=&supDate=

Yeah gr8 for tht.
But can u please tell if these will come with DRFM (Digital Radio Frequency Memory) or without it.
Cause without DRFM, these are useless.

If the PAF has aquired this system, then rest assured, they would have done all their homework first!

I sure hope so. . . . . .

Count on it!!!!!!!

lol no triple post!!!

WHERE?

Just kidding, thanks man....... thanks for watching my back!

These parts are modular in structure and can be used on different aircrafts.. not strictly for F16s....Us used ALQ211 for AH64D longbow.... Wondering it it can be used on AH1Fs....

AN/ALQ-211 Suite of Integrated RF Countermeasures (SIRFC)
The The Suite of Integrated Radio Frequency Countermeasures (SIRFC) is an integrated electronic combat system which provides RF threat awareness and active self-protection jamming capabilities for Army aircraft against RF air defense systems actively engaging the aircraft. The SIRFC will have application on scout/attack, utility, cargo, special operations, and special electronic mission aircraft. The SIRFC will provide defensive, offensive, active and passive countermeasures (ECM) to ensure optimum protection against Active, Pulse, Mono-Pulse Radar, and Continuous Wave radars. SIRFC consists of the Advanced Threat Radar Warning Receiver (ATRWR) and the Advanced Threat Radar Jammer. The SIRFC will replace the AN/APR-39A(V)1 radar warning receiver, the AN/ALQ-136(V)1/5 radar jammer and will give added countermeasures against continuous wave and pulse doppler threats. The total wt. for the suite is 97 pounds. The suite will also interface & integrate with other on-board systems to provide situational awareness and updates of threat information.
The SIRFC contributes to full-dimensional protection by improving individual aircraft probability of survival. In addition, the improved aircrew situational awareness offered by the synergistic effect of SIRFC with other attack aircraft sensors has potential to contribute tactically to precision engagement, and could also contribute tactically to dominant maneuver. SIRFC is intended to be an integrated aircraft survivability system that will provide defensive, offensive, active and passive countermeasures to ensure optimum protection for the host aircraft.


It will be placed on Army UH-60, AH-64 and CH-47 helicopters. The lead aircraft for SIRFC integration and IOT&E is the AH-64D Longbow/Apache.

SIRFC consists of three subsystems;
Advanced Threat Radar Jammer (ATRJ)
Advanced Threat Radar Warning Receiver (ATRWR)
Advanced Airborne Radio Frequency Expendables (AARFE)
The SIRFC core consists of an Advanced Threat Radar Warning Receiver (ATRWR) and the Advanced Threat Radar Jammer (ATRJ). The core Engineering and Manufacturing Development (EMD) design is comprised of four components. The Receiver/Processor containing the receiving, processing, and electronic countermeasures (ECM) generation functions of the ATRJ. The Remote Transmitter provide the self-protection transmitting capability of the ATRJ. The Advanced Countermeasures Module (ACM) provides advanced ECM techniques against a particular class of weapons. Finally, the Antenna Group which contains the receiver antenna for reception of microwave and millimeter wave signals and transmit antenna for transmission of microwave ECM signals.

The system will be capable of operating in either an automatic or manual (command) mode. It provides warning (situational awareness), active jamming (self protection), and when necessary expendable countermeasures to defeat threat radar guided weapon systems. Radar guided air defense artillery threat systems include surface to air missiles (SAMs) and anti-aircraft artillery (AAA). A Southwest Asia theater of operations set in 2006 is the basis for threat selection for the engineering and manufacturing development (EMD) program. Future integration of SIRFC with the Suite of Integrated InfraRed CounterMeasures (SIIRCM), in some aircraft which may be equipped with both systems, is a program objective to optimize multi-spectral threat countermeasures. Threat systems are not only those originating from within the Former Soviet Union, but also systems made and proliferated by the United States, US allies, and other weapons producers.

SIRFC entered Milestone I in FY90 with two prototype system deliveries in FY93. In addition to hardware in the loop (bench) testing, DEM/VAL testing was conducted at Eglin Air Force Base in an EH-60 aircraft beginning in FY93. SIRFC entered Milestone II in 1QFY95 with an EMD contract to produce five production representative systems.

Since FY95 DOT&E action officers have been engaged in a Test Planning Working Group (TPWG) to produce an OSD/DOT&E approved SIRFC TEMP. Final coordination on the TEMP was completed in September 1997 with agreement reached on final TEMP content for submission through the Army to OSD/DOT&E. The SIRFC TEMP was approved by DOT&E upon submission in 1QFY98. EMD deliveries planned in FY98 will first support system and aircraft integration, and contractor and government DT. This phase of testing will include bench, environmental, integration laboratory, Installed System Test Facility (ISTF), ground (open air hardware in the loop "pole" testing) and flight testing. OT continuous evaluation (CE) visibility into these events will be maintained during this phase of EMD. Many CE events will continue as integrated OT/DT. Specific OT&E activity is planned to begin with an early user evaluation (EUE) flight test in FY99. After the system hardware and software has been judged to be production representative, the EUE leads to an Operational Test Readiness Review to approve the system for entry into an integrated OT/DT phase prior to entering dedicated IOT&E in late FY99. Flight testing will include missions designed for direct effectiveness comparison of the SIRFC equipped AH-64D aircraft, to an AH-64 aircraft equipped with the AN/APR-39A radar warning receiver and the AN/ALQ-136(v)5 Pulse Radar Jammer which the ATRWR and ATRJ replace. MS III is currently planned for the end of FY99.

The OT&E concept and resources developed and codified in the SIRFC TEMP reflect a realistic and adequate balance between compliance with the DoD T&E Process for EW Systems and this relatively small program's correspondingly small T&E budget. The most significant T&E concern at this point is that while potentially doable, the schedule is optimistically success oriented. The program faces an unrealistic schedule for SIRFC EMD deliveries and the planned MS-III. Success of multiple concurrent events is presumed. In addition, sequential events are scheduled with little or no time available for problem resolution. The schedule does not allow for any lack of system maturity (test-fix-test) once the combined DT/OT phase is reached. Aggravating these concerns is the fact that only one of the limited number of development AH-64D aircraft with a complete avionics suite (including the Fire Control Radar) is available to the SIRFC T&E program in this time frame which is before AH-64D production aircraft become available. This aircraft could easily become a single point of failure, not necessarily related to SIRFC system performance, with a high probability of schedule delay. Finally, the end of IOT&E is followed immediately by the MS-III and will require full data analysis, evaluation, and reporting to be completed in parallel with the IOT&E phase.

Some good news there.
Hopefully these 21 AN/ALQ 211 ECM pods will come with DRFM. If so it will greatly boost PAF electronic warfare capabilities and be an asset for SEAD roles as well as air to air engagement. It will also bring the PAF F-16 C/D Block 50/52+ aircraft (on order) in a class higher than the Block 50/52+ series since DRFM is only on the F-16I and F-16 Block 60 variants. If the PAF F-16s face even further upgrades they could potentially be true 4.5 generation aircraft but such extra upgrades are unlikely as it is inefficient and uncost effective.

http://dawn.com/2008/07/24/welcome.htm

US confirms Pakistan F-16 fleet upgrade
WASHINGTON, July 24 (AFP/AP): The United States confirmed Thursday that it planned to shift 230 million dollars in aid to Pakistan from counter-terrorism programs to upgrading the country's F-16 fighter jets. Asked about an article in The New York Times detailing the shift, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino told reporters “that story is accurate” but said the airplanes would be used for counter-terrorism operations. The planes traditionally have not been used in anti-terrorism operations and Congress must approve the switch, which was requested days before Pakistan's new prime minister, Yousuf Raza Gilani, is due to meet President George W. Bush at the White House. The request to Congress late last week would allow Pakistan to purchase equipment to upgrade existing planes so that they have similar capabilities to equipment the Bush administration is already selling to Pakistan. The $226 million would come from an allotment already approved for other Pakistan anti-terror operations. The previous request would have upgraded P3-C aircraft, which often are used in surveillance operations, and modernize AH-IF Cobra helicopters. The helicopter work still would be done using different funding, a State Department official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because discussions with Congress are still preliminary. Switching the money to fix up F-16s would represent a change in the purpose for more than two-thirds of the $300 million that Pakistan will receive this year in U.S. military underwriting for Pakistan's equipment and training. U.S. assistance and other payments to Pakistan have totaled $9.6 billion in the six budget years since 9/11, according to the State Department. (First Posted @ 10:50 PST Updated @ 20:04 PST)

The MLU begins for the F-16 Blk 15 OCU.

I am not happy--these people r killing our people for peanuts--yeah F-16s are like peanuts!!

yeah F-16s are like peanuts!! stop making inflated comments! peanut brain!

f-16 is the most successful fighter plane, has been is service all around the world, as been keeping monkey land from attacking , and anytime pakistan gets upgrade for our falcons they cry!

so yeah american wana be! f-16 are not peanuts! yes it is our fault if we take dictation from others and do evil!
the offer is to discourage the development of jf-17 or any other future fighter acquisation plans by PAF, and with a PPP government who know!!!

Madness70
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I think you are new to PDF. Being patriotic is one thing but being immature is another. Ceaser's response have quit a load when he compares F-16s with Peanuts as these F-16s are damn costly (83 Million $/plane) and then the terms are extremely harsh. (Search on google) and even after that These F-16s are not carry each and every thing which a Block52+ must have and DRFM is missing. In SEAD/DEAD operations such capabilities are very crucial. On top of that we lost every thing we have had in Afghanistan's soil.

http://dawn.com/2008/07/30/welcome.htm

Lawmakers ask US not to upgrade Pakistan F-16s now
WASHINGTON, July 30 (Reuters): Two senior U.S. lawmakers said Tuesday they had asked the Bush administration not to shift $226.5 million in U.S. counterterrorism aid to Pakistan to upgrade Pakistani F-16 fighters for the time being. The Democratic lawmakers, House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Howard Berman of California and Rep. Nita Lowey of New York, said they feared the plan could hinder counterterrorism efforts and wanted more time to study it. Congressional staffers, requesting anonymity, said the Bush administration could still transfer the money if it wished but sought to respect such requests from lawmakers. A U.S. official who asked not to be named said the administration was weighing how to respond but noted that there was a deadline on Thursday to make a payment to Lockheed Martin Corp, the military contractor that would upgrade the planes. In a statement, Berman and Lowey said legislation passed by Congress last year specifically required that military aid to Pakistan be used for counterterrorism and law enforcement activities directed against al Qaeda and the Taliban. We are concerned that the administration's proposal to use military assistance to pay for the F-16 upgrades will divert funds from more effective counterterrorism tools like helicopters, TOW missiles, and night-vision goggles, they added. Berman and Lowey said they wanted to help Gilani's government cope with a budget crisis brought on by rising fuel and food prices and proposed that Congress provide $200 million in economic aid to help address this. (Posted @ 09:25 PST)

Are you showing us that you are an idiot?? And watch your language "MADNESS" -- oh boy!!!

Here we go again!!!

Hopefully, Pakistan will get what USA administration wants. U.S. lawmakers sometimes has to say something foe their vote bank.
At the moment, here things are in Pakistan favor.

Both of them Bowman and Lowry are Jewish, read their biography on Wikipedia.
Unfortunately, now it's a move to actually block the upgrades http://www.france24.com/en/20080730-us-con...fighter-fleet-0

If the bill passes, then we have another Pressler Ammendment to deal with.
Wish we'd have gone for 10-15 J-11's instead of the 18 new F-16's, and also not drop the idea for the 36 J-10's.

What'll happen to our jets parked in the US waiting for the upgrades, will we get them back?