visionary
Jul 10 2008, 02:52 AM
hey what the ........ we just lost one last month? what is it this time?
any updates
SUNNY92
Jul 10 2008, 04:39 AM
QUOTE(visionary @ Jul 10 2008, 02:52 AM)

hey what the ........ we just lost one last month? what is it this time?
any updates
I can confirm that both crew ejected safely, which in it self is major relief!
airomerix
Jul 10 2008, 07:40 AM
What the hell? any official sorce?
Rooh Afza
Jul 10 2008, 09:56 AM
Dawn is reporting it.
visionary
Jul 10 2008, 12:01 PM
it was sl sohail and fl ahmed. that all i knew uptil now.
yaar what the hell is wrong with this airforce? safety record gone down the drain?
asamih
Jul 10 2008, 02:57 PM
QUOTE(visionary @ Jul 10 2008, 07:01 PM)

it was sl sohail and fl ahmed. that all i knew uptil now.
yaar what the hell is wrong with this airforce? safety record gone down the drain?
No mate its ageing T-37s, some mirages, some F-7s and A5C's which desperately need replacing and are running out of flight hours.
The sooner they are replaced the faster the accident rate will fall.
The PAF are very proffesional and abide by regular safety checks.
Dont worry mate the PAF's accident record is nothing compared to the IAF they lose many

.
jamal18
Jul 10 2008, 03:56 PM
The planes are old and on there way out. No great loss.
A small step in bringing the k-8's in sooner.
visionary
Jul 11 2008, 02:04 AM
man but what abt our boy we crahsed last month. we loose like this we wont have any pilots left!
SurvivoR
Jul 11 2008, 04:32 AM
Have our standards gone so low now that we need to compare our Air force with the Incompetent Air 'Farce'? cmon guys the moto of our Air Force was to be 'Second to None'! and that is the standard to which we need to compare ourselves. Nothing less should be acceptable. I know ppl would be saying I m nuts for even thinking about such notions when we got far superior air forces operating in the world but wut the heck... You can only achieve something if you start by believing in it. I however believe that along with aging aircrafts, we have lowered our minimum standard as an Air force too, rather than raise it even higher or at least keep it at par as of the pioneers of our beloved Air Force.
visionary
Jul 11 2008, 06:18 AM
Gentlemen, our PAF is one of teh finest forces in the world. There could be something wrong with the way we train our boys? maybe something wrong with the leadership. whenever a company fails, the leaders are blamed and they have failed?
SUNNY92
Jul 11 2008, 08:54 AM
Folks, kindly refrain from making assumptions and pre-emptive judgements, the T-37 aircraft are of 50s technology,unlike other machines they have not been upgraded except for some superficial make up, due to the nature of an aircraft's complexity, vulnerability will always come into equation.
Despite several shortcommings, the PAF is still up there with the "creme de la creme", let there be no doubt about it!
Take French air force for example ~ in less than a month they lost a Rafel, a Mirage-2000 N and a Mirage F-1C aircraft.
visionary
Jul 11 2008, 12:27 PM
right on Sunny.
PAF is will always remain number one!
asamih
Jul 11 2008, 06:13 PM
QUOTE(SurvivoR @ Jul 11 2008, 11:32 AM)

Have our standards gone so low now that we need to compare our Air force with the Incompetent Air 'Farce'? cmon guys the moto of our Air Force was to be 'Second to None'! and that is the standard to which we need to compare ourselves. Nothing less should be acceptable. I know ppl would be saying I m nuts for even thinking about such notions when we got far superior air forces operating in the world but wut the heck... You can only achieve something if you start by believing in it. I however believe that along with aging aircrafts, we have lowered our minimum standard as an Air force too, rather than raise it even higher or at least keep it at par as of the pioneers of our beloved Air Force.
By the way when i was comparing the losses to the IAF i did it as a light hearted joke to be of annoyance to any Indian readers hence the "

".
Please don't make any unsubstantiated assumptions.
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