Hijab Ban in Tunsia
Written by Yvonne Ridley(former captive of the taliban who found islam in their hands)
Tuesday, 29 May 2007


I have a bee in my bonnet – or hijab to be more precise. On an almost daily basis there are horrific stories pouring out of Tunisia about how the state police are ripping off the hijabs of women living there.

Some of these women, who are merely fulfilling their religious obligation to wear a hijab, have been assaulted, sexually abused and even locked up in prison by the authorities.

Unbelievable when you consider western tourists are topless sunbathing on the coastal resorts, soaking up the Tunisian sun.

So it is okay to get your kit off if you are a western tourist who pays handsomely for sun, sand, sex and sangria …but try wearing a hijab and see what happens in this so-called liberal, Muslim country.

At the moment I am in Tehran where Iranian police are occasionally stopping women in the streets to remind them of their religious obligations by wearing a full hijab.

There's been an outcry in the Western media about how the Iranian authorities are fining women who fail to wear their hijabs correctly in public.

I call these women the half-jabis – you know the ones, they balance their designer scarfs precariously on the back of their heads and spend the rest of the day adjusting and picking their scarfs from the nape of their necks.

It might have endeared Princess Diana to half the Muslim world when she 'covered' in Muslim countries, but most women who try and emulate the Di style just look plain stupid.

But what a pity those same journalists don't travel to Tunisia and write about a real story like the human rights abuses against women in down town Tunis instead of focusing on Tehran.

Why do journalists choose to ignore the Amnesty International report which outlines in clinical detail how the Tunisian authorities have increased their "harassment of women who wear the hijab"?

Is it because the Tunisian government is a craven devotee of the Bush Administration whereas Iran was identified as the now infamous Axis of Evil?

Surely the media is not that fickle? (Rhetorical question merely for the benefit of the mentally challenged).

The actions of the Tunisian regime make Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his government look like a group of Tupperware party planners.

For instance, the Ministers of Foreign Affairs and the Interior and the Secretary-General of Tunisia's ruling political party, the Constitutional Democratic Rally, have stated they are so concerned about rise in the use of the hijab by women and girls and beards and the qamis (knee-level shirts) by men, that they have called for a strict implementation of decree 108 of 1985 of the Ministry of Education banning the hijab at educational institutions and when working in government.

Police have ordered women to remove the head scarfs before being allowed into schools, universities or work places and others have been made to remove them in the street.

According to Amnesty's report, some women were arrested and taken to police stations where they were forced to sign written commitment to stop wearing the hijab.

Amnesty International states quite clearly it believes that individuals have the right to choose whether or not to wear a headscarf or other religious covering, consistent with their right to freedom of expression.



They have called on the Tunisian government to "respect the country's obligations under both national law and international human rights law and standards, and to end the severe restrictions which continue to be used to prevent exercise of fundamental rights to freedom of expression, association and peaceful assembly".

They have even kindly asked President Ben Ali's government to "end the harassment and attempted intimidation of human rights defenders".

I would like to be more forthright with Mr Ben Ali and remind him of his Islamic obligations as a Muslim.

I doubt if Zine Alabidin Ben Ali would take much notice. The man is clearly an arrogant fool and somewhere in Tunisia there is a village which is missing its idiot (Hamman-Sousse in the Sahel, actually).

This is the man who once said the hijab was something foreign and not part of Tunisian culture. Hmm, he obviously has not seen pictures taken before he came to power, clearly show Tunisian women going about their business fully covered.

He has a history of despising the French colonialists who occupied his country, but at least under the French, the Tunisian people had more freedom than they do now.

And since I have no family, friends or connections in Tunisia I write this without fear or favour.

Also, there is no rank in Islam so I care nothing for his title nor do I have any respect for him as a man. I would certainly never doff my cap to this particular President of Tunisia and would happily spit in his face if he told me to remove my hijab.

Perhaps those Muslim women in Tehran might like to consider the plight of their sisters in Tunisia before trying to balance their hijabs on the backs of their heads. And I would ask them to read the harrowing report below before bellyaching to more journalists about their rights to parade around like Diana-look-a-likes.

It was written by an imam from Tunisia who had it smuggled out and given to me because he wants the world to know exactly what is happening to the women in his country.

Here is a snippet: "The police will randomly make their way into markets and rip the hijabs from women's heads as well as take away any fabrics being sold to make hijabs.

"They will also go into factories where women are working and rip the hijabs off women's heads. This

is the least of what they have done.

"I will give you just one example of what these dogs with Arab faces but the hearts of devils, have done to

our sisters. They have, at one time ordered a public bus to halt in the middle of the road while two plain clothes detectives went inside. The buses are similar to the ones in the west except they will usually have three times more people inside it.

"They grabbed one women wearing hijab and

took her outside of the bus. This was a sister who they had warned before. They brought her into the side of the street and began slapping her across her face and cursing at her with the worst language you could think of.

"They took her hijab off and the main policeman

said, "When are you going to stop wearing this ****. She said she would never stop and she was crying. The men took her around the corner by a

public bathroom.

"They ripped her clothes off. They grabbed a soda bottle, these bottles are made of glass, and they raped her with it. They were laughing and they were many people around but no one did anything. When they were done they made her wear a short skirt and a sleeveless shirt and made her walk home to her husband like this. I swear by Allah that this is true".

The time is fast approaching when sisters across the world have to unite and come together in defence of the hijab and in defence of the Muslim sisterhood.

My appeal goes out to feminists of all faiths and no faith but please don't think Muslim women are weak because the reality is that Islamic feminism can be just as radical as western feminism.

Our parameters and values are slightly different as Muslims but that does not make us any better or lesser human beings than western feminists. There is certainly no room for sectarianism in the Muslim sisterhood and we have no time for petty squabbles, divisions, cultural or tribal affiliations.

The bottom line is that we need to show solidarity with our sisters in Tunisia … it is a very small country which makes it easy for the army to control the people and brutally squash any signs of resistance.

Even those Tunisians living abroad have a fear in their eyes because while they may be safe, members of their families left behind are often held to account for any actions overseas regarded as subversive.

The brutality of the regime, combined with the happy clappy clerics and their narcotic-style preachings in praise of the Sufi-style government have also collectively subdued parts of the Tunisian population.

No wonder the Muslim youth no longer clamour to get into masjids on Fridays to listen to these khateebs who spend half the khutbah praising the President and his followers.

Which is why I salute the bravery of those sisters in Tunisia who are fighting for the right to fulfill their religious obligation as Muslim women, to wear the hijab.

If you want to help, then copy and paste this article and send it to the nearest Tunisian Embassy demanding that Muslim womens' rights to wear the hijab are respected.

Bloody faggots!
Trying to b more loyal to the king than the king himself.
These asls have forgotten thier roots and morals.

This is what happens when they leave Islam just like Turkey did.

I have been to Tunisia 4 times and have just come back from there.

Let me tell you that a huge majority of Tunisians have rejected Islam and have gone on to do all the things Shaytan wants us to do. It is such a shame!!!.

Families there drink alcohol, gamble, smoke classfied drugs, have sex with their unmarried paetners, sleep around etc etc.

A few few elderly ladies wear hijab but you should see their daughters....mini skirts and alcohol fuelled.

I have learnt in life that look after yourself and make sure you follow your Deen, you can not control others!!.

Exactly the direction Pakistan is going in .

Stop fooling yourself go to pakistan and you wont find a girl not wearing a shalwar kameez!
Our people have completly rejected western values and are today leaning towards a taliban state. I would much rather live in a society of alchohol and gambling than one of the harami taliban

friend of mine just came from Pakistan, told me corruption is worst he has ever seen. Prostitutes cost Rs 100 in Karachi and Lahore and you can have them by the car loads. I was just disgusted at the state of the country and the poverty driven corruption.

OMG! ...

Poverty, corruption and prostitutionism has been in pakistan ever since is existance and will always be in pakistan. Its just a matter of how you deal with it. Look at how the west deal with there problems and look at how pakistan deals with this problem then you will see why pakistanis back at home are porn crazy in net cafes behind closed doors while showing how islamic they are infront. Hypocricy at its best is how you can describe many pakistanis today

Just because they do these things doesnt mean that Tunis has rejected islam. Ive seen this in pakistan as well, accept maybe the mini skirts part. I seriously think that pakistanis need to stop being judgful and be more liberal, we ourselves have completly forgotten our values

Yes, absolutely, become like USA and India ; ripe AIDS, shootings , rapes, brutality and torture?

All these things are very much already in pakistan just open up your eyes and stop critisizing others. Pakistan is not an islamic utopia some people here like to believe

No this is what happens when you force ppl to do something. To put a hijab on or not to put a hijab on, its not the governments job, its the individuals.

So do you think that Tunisian chics are hot?

...but the Pakistani govt does not 'protest' against hijab!

Yes there are Pakistani women who wear mini skirts and tank tops...while many female PAF officers also wear hijabs...

Yeah keep living that dream. I have not been there for 10 years. And knowing what i know then, dont help me to believe what you are saying. And then there is this stupid tv showing all the "goree" wanna be.

western values are not rejected at all. they are just molded to comply with our sense of "honor". otherwise girl still screw around and those who dont are turning out to be more of anomaly than norm. and i am talking of 1998.

In pakistan, there are many worlds living parallel. You might not know it but they exist. For example,

they could be innocent like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fX5E6LCjEo...feature=related

and then there is this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMooWXi_AOc&NR=1

And by the way, I dont wanna live in neither taliban, nor alchohol, gambling and "Me myself and I" society.

The hijab become a popular tool of resistance against European colonialism back in the day. Those days are over. Get with the times.

But I don't think government intervention solves the problem. In fact it worsens it.

One person wishing to walk nude down the street is different from the government forcing all of them to.

please take your head out of the sand, or take a trip to Pakistan. i was in Pakistan last month and it surprised me how much Pakistan had changed since 2003. girls wearing jeans and t-shirts is common in the big cities now, night clubs and bars are operating openly and loads of couples can be seen dating in the parks, very unlike what it used to be 5 or 6 years ago.

So this is what it has come to ..... choosing b/w two evils?! Ones who supports Taliban, completely oblivious to the fact that they're misguided and have a complete lack of 'Hikma' and 'Hidayah' from Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah. These are the ones who think that blowing themselves up in the middle of a crowd of people and killing the innocent would allow them to enter paradise and have seventy virgins! And then there are ones who support the fitna of dajjal, willing to live in a society where there is alcohol and prostitution than to follow the Taliban. Who accept the life which every command of Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah and are destined to the hell fire. Accepting the western kuffar ways because it eliminates the possibility to be called a terrorist.

How pityful is your state! How pathetic is the state of your acumen! Both types are equally as stupid, as retarded and as confounded idiots, as the kuffar which are conned by dajjals fitna.

How can you be so ignorant, when the prescribed way of life stands staring you in the face? Are blind not to see how our beloved Prophet Sallallaho Alaihi Wassallam lived His life? Do you not know that living your life for Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah, like our beloved Prophet Muhammad Sallallaho Alaihi Wassallam lived His life for Allah, ignites the Mu'min in you? Do you not know what a 'Mu'min' is? Do you not know, that in this day and age, in order to pierce through fitna of dajjal, you need to have the 'Firaasah' of a Mu'min? One who knows that suicide is a sin and killing innocent people through a suicide bombing is an even greater sin. One who see's how dajjal uses these crazed lunatics like Al-Qaeda and Taliban, to pull you in the other direction.

This is what a Mu'min sees, this is what a Mu'min knows and this is precisely why those who go the Taliban way and those who go the western way are both belonging to the breed of barefooted naked sheperds, wondering aimlessly under the blazing sun.

Shame on all of those who have lost their spirit of 'Imaan' and become completely oblivious to what a Mu'min is. Stop fooling yourself into believing that if you are Talibanized, that you're closer to Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah. Stop being an idiot into thinking that following the so-called enlightened moderation, is an acceptable form of being a Muslim before Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah. Both types are a bunch of crazed souls, squealing in the infinite emptiness of ignorance and have become deviod of any substance and faith.

sigh, too much bollywood leads to too much lula woods.

Ok fine. Can you give me your sisters phone number. If you have no sister, then tell your mum to wear a mini skirt and bra. Afterall, you want a liberal society so that's what you can give to me.

Seriously man, you dont even know what kind of liberalism he is talking about. And all that crap was not even necessary at all.

OOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Dude how abt u STFU. Now dont bring ppls family into matters, if you cant discuss in civilaised manner than just dont visit the forum and get out of here. How abt some1 asking you the same?

French minister says Burqa is a prison

Thursday, July 17, 2008
PARIS: Women who wear Burqas live in a prison, a French minister said in an interview on Wednesday, after a Moroccan woman who wears the head-to-toe Islamic veil was denied French citizenship.

“The Burqa is a prison, it’s a straightjacket,” urban affairs minister Fadela Amara, herself a practising Muslim who was born in France to Algerian parents, said in an interview to Le Parisien newspaper.

“It is not a religious insignia but the insignia of a totalitarian political project that advocates inequality between the sexes and which is totally devoid of democracy.” France’s top administrative court, the state council, on June 27 rejected the citizenship request on the grounds that the woman’s Muslim practices were incompatible with French laws on secularism and gender equality. Amara said the ruling might “dissuade certain fanatics from imposing the Burqa on their wives.”

The Moroccan woman, identified only as 32-year-old Faiza M., turned up for interviews with French authorities to discuss her application accompanied by her husband and wearing the long veil “with only her eyes visible through an opening”, according to government officials quoted by the newspaper.

Faiza M., who has been living in France since 2000 and has three children, admitted to leading a reclusive life in a Paris suburb “living in a state of total submission to the men in her family,” according to the newspaper. Amara, a prominent women’s rights campaigner who joined President Nicolas Sarkozy’s government last year, said she made no distinction between the veil and the Burqa.


http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=124512

England Shut the f**k up.

What the f**k kinda vibes are you going on? If you can't keep your posts within a level of human decency then you'll find yourself not being able to post. Your talking about the guys family. That sh1t is unacceptable.

The man has a point. Who died and made you an authority on the iman of all of Tunisia? Yeah a lot of them probably are all liberal etc, but you did visit a tourist destination. Irregardless, you can't diss them all.

It is the same in Pakistan. We got some Muslims who don't let their women out of thier homes and others who are clubbing... none of their actions as individuals reflects on us.

That guy said we should be more liberal, I don't agree or disagree, but we defintely need to be less judgmental.

Come to Quetta if you find any Modern Shameless BOY or Girl walking Publicly Sue me..

And you need to watch your language too......why do you have to use such language even if you have deleted parts of the swear word to make it look abit more presentable.

You could have said the same thing in a much more civilised manner so I think you should go back to your English dictionary and read it properly!

Well it was kind of personal remark you made England and rather a poor and derogatory comparison. But yes, Plati has over reacted and a bit crude with his reply. I guess its all about "attitude" Plati !!!???

over reacted?

His (Englands) comments are such that it deserves this kind of response and look at his hypocracy when he make bad comments about some1 family member its okay, but when mods tell him to shut his trap than its wrong and bad and whant not.

they are .... I've been there quite a few times .... liked it very much ...

At the end of the day these are signs of the end times, in terms of Mankinds history we are now approaching the end days.

So it is the wisdom of Allah (swt) that he tests everyone, and it goes without saying that it has to get worse before it gets better.

If everyone was living a ideal Islamic life, if the world was filled with justice, and if the rulers were just and kind to their people (as we have seen in episodes of Islamic history) then frankly the coming of characters like Mahdi and Dajjal would be very difficult to stomach.

The fact that there is global oppression of Muslims, the whole world is gearing up and coming together for all-out-war on Islam and Islamic values, and the fact that Muslims
are too busy preoccupied with anything and everything but Islam, all together brings us the ultimate conclusion that this (as wrong as it may be) is really all a necessary evil.

The Prophet (saw) said in a famous narration, predicting the course of Muslim history he said ; After me there will be Righteous Khulafa, and then Allah will take it away...then there will Kings (banu ummyah, banu abbas,bani usman) of this Ummah for a period of time and then Allah will take it away....after that there will be the age of Tyrants (our age from 1924 onwards) and then Allah will take them away....and after that will be Khilafah Rashida once more" - and this time everyone will enter the fold of Islam, and the story of humanity will be complete.

So the battle lines are drawn, the chess pieces in place, so choose your side brothers, choose carefully, repent to Allah, ask his forgivness, and know that you will surely return to your Lord....so save yourselves and your families from the Fire of Jahanam, indeed that is ultimate success in this life and the hereafter.

As for the tyrants that oppress and kill Muslims, you will see in your own lifetimes what kind of a end they have, and you will see more clearly in the Akhirah how Allah repays them eternally for what they used to do.

Your one to talk. The man was insulting peoples families, what i said was nothing, it was proportionate. If you say that to some peoples face you'd get stabbed.

Don't try dragging things off topic.

The Shameful Conspiracy Against Honorable Women In Tunisia And Turkey

By Sahar Kassaimah

26/1/2001

It is hard to believe or even to imagine that, in a Muslim country, Muslim women are being banned from wearing hijab (headscarves), state employees are banned from wearing beards, and workers can lose their jobs if they are spotted praying in public.

Women have been banned from wearing hijab at universities throughout Turkey since the beginning of 1998, and it is considered a criminal offense against the law in Tunisia.

These are very crucial matters in the history of these two countries - one of which is a former capital of the Khilafah, and the other the land of the glorious Islamic University Azzeituna.

The same shameful conspiracy is occurring within both countries - not only against those who have Islamic political beliefs, but also against anyone practicing Islam.

Thousands of Muslim women have been expelled from their work places; and universities, schools and even hospitals will not admit them. Scenes of police on campuses removing women students who have refused to take off their hijab have become all too familiar.

At the same time, the government regimes have placed them under an internal economic siege in which they are facing the intense pressure of being without a source of income for their families. In some cases, they succumb - removing their hijab so that they can provide the basic necessities of life such as food, shelter, medicine and clothing for their children.

In October 1998, four million protestors demonstrated in various cities in Turkey in support of female students who had been suspended from universities for refusing to remove their hijab. The police attacked thousands of the demonstrators for peacefully participating in the protests, which were staged at night. Many women and young girls were taken away.

Several journalists, lecturers and students were charged with treason, and many people were tortured by the police - even youth at the mere age of 13 and 14 - and treated as if they were criminal suspects.

Political prisoners and prisoners of conscience in Turkey are not allowed free and open access to their visitors; they have been forced to speak to them through a series of bars and reinforced plastic sheeting.

According to IHRC Rapporteurs, various methods of torture have been used against some of the prisoners at the hands of guards, including:

· The use of electric shocks on different parts of the body, including their genitalia;
· Beating prisoners while they are blindfolded;
· Exposing naked prisoners to winter weather through open windows after dousing them with cold water;
· Raping women, young girls and even children.


Feliz Beyaz, born in Istanbul in 1975, passed the university entrance exams in 1996 and was arrested in 1998 during demonstrations against the banning of hijab. One week after her release from jail, at half past midnight, Feliz and her friend died on an Istanbul highway after being knocked down by the secret service in a hit and run accident. This method of murder is common in Turkey.

The following story is that of a young Turkish girl who has been asked to choose between attending school and her religious beliefs:

"Today, my school looks at me as [though I am] a stranger and tells me that I am a stranger. However, yesterday, I was the owner of these lands. Tomorrow? I do not know what will happen tomorrow. Will the corridors of the hospital that I have walked [through] for many times claim me again? Will the garden that I have sat for many hours of the guard nights take me to its bosom?

"Our efforts to save the lives of patients, taking their blood pressure.... my friends that I have competed with to take an EGG... My heart beats that I felt when I first made an IV injection... Will they take place in my life, again?

"For five years, I have attended this faculty with the excitement, which I felt the day I first wore the white clothes... I have become eager by listening to the dreams my father had about me. I have striven to see the happiness and pride in my father's eyes and to take my mother's blessing.

"When I saw the patient losing his life due to lack of medical care, I decided to work harder and prayed more. I prayed to Allah not to keep me away from my way and to let me be a real doctor that helps the others.

"But suddenly, someone said, "STOP"! You have no chance to enter here with these clothes, especially the funny thing you wear on your head. And then the doors were closed to my face roughly. The police stopped me entering my school that I had reached by the first lights of the day.

"My friends that I had shared the same desks for many years were able to do nothing. The professor who had been expressing his gladness about my success to the classroom was, now, at the door near the policeman. He was sorry... I could see this in his ashamed eyes. The only thing I can do was to cry out my innocence.

"I am really sad to see the ugly face of my elders. But I am not hopeless, I know and I believe that these days and oppressions will end somehow, someday. They will become 'memories' from the past."

In Tunisia, the situation of Muslim women is almost the same as in Turkey despite the claims of President Ben Ali about his social achievements and the improvement in the status of women in Tunisia over the last decade.

In an interview with "Al-Hawadeth" Magazine in 1997, after the celebration of the 10th anniversary of the Movement of Change, President Ben Ali said, "In this respect, we are moving forward, on the basis of a complementary conception, in such a way as to safeguard the dignity of women while preserving the interests of the family and the security of society. We have been concerned to ensure an equality of opportunity between men and women and to renew legislation regulating the sphere of women."

These statements were made while Muslim women wearing Islamic hijab were being banned from schools and work places across the country.

Out of a total population of around nine million, there are more than 3,000 prisoners of conscience - most of whom are Islamists - and there have been dozens of deaths due to torture, and food and sleep derivation.

Human rights organizations have found it increasingly difficult to carry out their activities in defense of human rights in Tunisia. The Tunisian government often targets them, accusing their public opposition to its widespread violation of human rights of being against democracy and in favor of the Islamists.

PCOT defendant Iman Darwiche reported that guards incited her mental illness by torturing, choking, and spitting on her, and defecating on her personal effects. The government does not permit the media or international organizations to inspect prison conditions.

The regime targets women purely for their marriages to or blood relations with Islamists. Violations against them include harassment, interrogations, dismissal from work, torture, sexual abuse and rape. Anyone, including relatives, who assists wives of prisoners or exiled political opponents is liable to prosecution.

Many reports have affirmed that Security Services uses different forms of inhumane torture and degrading treatment against prisoners of conscience. The torture includes methods such as electric shock, cigarette burns, beating them with police batons, submersion of their heads in water and/or chemicals, and food and sleep derivation. Other methods of torture have been used against Islamists in prison that are hard to describe - even harder to imagine.

Over the last few years, many prisoners - particularly women and children - have become mentally, psychologically and physically ill because of the cruelty and inhumanity that they have suffered at the hands of regimes who are obsessed with using their power in a conspiracy against their own people.

Is this what President Ben Ali meant by "the improvement in the status of Tunisian women and the security of society?" Is this what he meant by "the equality of opportunity between men and women?"

Maybe he was talking about equality of opportunity inside prisons, where all prisoners face the same methods of torture without differentiation between men and women.

This shameful agony - being faced by honorable women in Tunisia and Turkey - is for no other crime than adhering to their religious beliefs.

Allah (SWT) says in the Qur'an (Sura'tul 85:8), "And they ill-treated them for no other reason than that they believed in Allah, Exalted in power, worthy of all praise."

So insulting Islam is good for you but insulting families is bad for you. Grow up!.

And not admitting when clearly wrong (in over reacting) is fine with you too. Grow up!.

Being given administrator access does not mean you can say and do anything you like. Grow up!.

lol... you'll find it does....

Listen simple fact of the matter is, you consider him to have "insulted Islam", you defintely insulted his family.

In 'Age of Fitan', our beloved Prophet Muhammad Sallallaho Alaihi Wassallam said, Dajjal would come with a river in one hand and a fire in the other. Those who will accept his (Dajjal's) ways, would fall in the river and people would believe that they're going heaven, when in reality they would be going to hell and those who reject his (Dajjal's) ways would fall in the fire and people will be duped into believing that they're going to hell, when in reality they would be going to heaven.

Such is Dajjal's deception, such is his fitna, that you would not be able to combat it, without 'Imaan' and living our lives on the path of our beloved Prophet Muhammad Sallallaho Alaihi Wassalllam.

Dizasta Brother Nauzubillah i think you have typed the hadees wrong.I think that those who believe in Dajjal's ways will be go to heaven which in reality is hell and those who reject his ways will go into the fire which will be heaven. May ALLAH help us all.

Thank you Ali, for pointing out the mistake, I really appreciate it. I have edited it now and you can tell if it is correct or not. Wonderful to see that my brother knows the hadeeth and am proud'a you, Masha-Allah!

I do not know the full hadeeth but i did knew the mafhoom.I think that it is right.

ALLAH Hafiz.

After reading those articles, man it really hits home how terrible the situation in Turkey and Tunisia really is for Muslims

Can you imagine your own state physically raping, torturing and killing you for such things?

For all our faults and shortcomings, in Pakistan at least i can wear what i want in my country!

Sure we got a ton of problems, heck, USA probably gonna bomb us next year but i tell ya...

...Aint no Idol-believing Freemasonic-Illuminati Jinn-worshiping Dajjal-loving crap going to run things over here!

Narahaaa-eee----Takbeeeeeeer!

There are many US/UK Muslims who think Egypt, tunisia, and morocco are great islamic places !

Regarding Hijab ban, if you speak to many tunisians, they will justify it by saying "we reject extremism in our society and hijab is sign of extremism" !

I am scared Allah may bring wrath down on them sometimes............

mostly we criticise Taliban .. good to see some one criticizing Turkey and Tunasia too as extreemist countries ..

Extreemism can not be justified in the name of Islam

• Either its in the form of Talibanism in Afghanistan where they beat women to wear Burqa .

• Or like in Turkey and Tunasia where they beat women and introduced rules to remove BURQA !

Both are the peak form of EXTREEMISM ...

Our religion is so simple .. check this hadiths..

Ayesha ® reported that Asmaa the daughter of Abu Bakr ® came to the Messenger of Allah (S) while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said:



Hijab is not merely a covering dress but more importantly, it is behavior, manners, speech and appearance in public. Dress is only one facet of the total being.But the niqaab(covering face ), i think is ok, if the women choose to use it out of their own free will without being forced into it

The west has lost it's bearings on reality, those who wish to join "it" beyond the point of no return are more then welcome.

Indeed, but we will see how eager they are to join the west when the west enters into Jahanam and they are told to follow their masters.

The Azhaab of Allah is qareeban (near indeed).

The Bosnian Muslims had completely rejected mainstream Islam for centuries.

They were living happily as a member province of socialist communist Yugoslavia.

The Bosnian Muslims were living in their so-called "modern" utopia... allegedly integrated within the Slavic Serb & Croat societies... They ate like them, they drank like them, and they dressed like them... hell!!... they even married amongst them.

Then the 90s hit... Communist Yugoslavia broke apart... & all hell broke loose! The poor hapless confused Bosnian figured they were safe. Alas! No! They were butchered like animals, raped savagely, thousands upon thousands were massacred, they were ethnically cleansed, their houses were burnt down & they were left for the vultures.

The naive Bosnians had thought the fact they were Muslim in name only would help save them from the Slavic assault!

The illusion that you can maybe change Islam to suit the needs of these Savages Imperialists is fatalistic.

Fools!

Once a Muslim, always a Muslim...


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Same goes for Turkey... for decades they have been trying to be a member of the EU. All their monkey tricks of adopting European attitude in exchange for their rich Turkish heritage have amounted to nothing! Even in Germany, Turkish immigrants are looked upon with scorn and as an inferior race.

Turks should put aside this pathetic dream to become something they are not... & concentrate on their own rich and proud heritage!



Therefore in conclusion... I would like tell the so-called "modern" Tunisian reformers... No matter how naked your women get... "Once a Sand Ni**er, always a Sand Ni**er". Go to Paris & see for yourself all the 2nd class Tunisian immigrants!

The thing is ..... this in not something new for Tunisia .... they have had this law since their independence from France under Habib Bourgiba .... why are we talking about this now???

SHAME ON TUNISIAN GOVERNMENT.

Yes, Tunisia has more influence from France than Arabs, and they are moderates.