Just wondering. What happens when an army officer leaves the country and his duties towards the nation without resigning or anything. And then when he comes back to Pakistan, what happens to him?

Appriciate all replies.

If he was an AWOL (Absent With Out Leave), then he would be tried in the Army court of justice and be given a fair chance to present his case. Army officers are an integral part of the institution and are given their fair chance to defend themselves, when facing a trial. However, if he had left through official channels and with a proper resignation letter. Than that is a totally different scenario. However, I get the vibe that the latter is not the case with your 'army officer.' Be forthcoming in your approach toward this, be tactfully prepared for when the trial takes place and be very honest about the reasons for which you left. Speak the truth, no matter what the consequences, for it is the Sunnah of our beloved Prophet Muhammad Sallallaho Alaihi Wassallam.

Thank u so much for the reply.

Yeah well, my friends' husband left the army, and now to get a political asyl in europe he is talking shitt and telling people that the court will hang him to death for this.

Since my friend and the husband has gotten divorce, he's basically just trying to make her life a hell. Khair, do you by any chance know what the ''punishment'' for such an act is? (Like AWOL).

This person, is likely to face a dishonorable discharge and would be disallowed from working in any military or military owned civilian organization, or any civilian organization which is contracted by the military. Other than that, there is no such thing as a death sentence of an ex-military officer who went AWOL. This is just hog-wash that he is throwing at others for sympathy. People would do anything to live in the so-called paradise .... Europe, Britain, America, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. Even lie about their fate if they return to Pakistan. That is what happens, when you see grass greener on the other side and loose what Allah Subhanaho Wata'aalah has blessed you with.

No need to thank me, if you're Pakistani, I was just doing my part as your fellow countryman.

usually doctors,engineers in army do this.They get on ECL(exit control list) through ministry of interior and are apprehended at airport when entering or exiting the country.

Yes, that is what I thought too. I have never heard of any AWOL military officer being executed! I'm just being curious because I am seeing my friend in lots of pain because of this man. It is unbelievable how many lies people can tell just to get a bloody visa. I just hope this man thanks Allah Subhanawtahla for what he has and accepts what he's getting. Cause lies get caught in the end, no matter what!

Thank you brother for all the info.

Jazak Allah.

Yeah so that is what it's called: ECL. :)

Thanks brother.

Jazak Allah.

What a coincidence, you joined PDF July 15 2007, and your very first post was after a year today, that's like an anniversary post!
Welcome to PDF sister.

Wow! Even I myself didn't notice that!

Thanks for welcoming me brother.

Still, I would really appriciate exact law paragraphs (if available), for such and act as mentioned above.

Our lawyers have embarked on a long march (yet again).
Once they return, I'll ask them.

Just kidding, I have absolutely no knowledge where to get specific army rules and clauses specific to your querry.
Your handle suggests that your husband is an Army Officer, can't he throw some light on this matter?

In-fact, encourage him to join PDF, he may be able to throw a lot of light on quite a number of threads, just a suggestion.

if it is proven he filed a political asylum and what he said in the court he will be charged for treason/waging war against state punishable by death.

Please take some proper legal advise, that is all I can suggest.

Note: please don't take any advise or suggestion from the PDF, I don’t think, anymore over here is qualified enough to suggest anything. You may put yourself or other in deeper trouble unless you go through proper channel.

Oh no brother, this is my friends username (the one who is in trouble right now). So she allowed me to post with her username, so no, I do not have any husband in the army. No husband at all actually, lol.

but thanks again :)

Oh Lord, if that is true, then he has messed up big time!!!

Oh that I am trying to. But not that easy when you hardly know anyone in Pakistan. And no, definately I am NOT taking any conclusions out from whatever that is said here. But still, we are open for advises and any kind of help.

Jazak Allah.

This thread should immediately be moved to Members Intro, and fetch a handsome 5 pages.

Jokes aside, assure your friend, her hubby's not coming back, and she can just apply for Khula and move on with her life.
A man who's a traitor to his own nation, and can abandon his own wife, is not worth it.

I don't know what exactly 'he said', as you said that he said 'Sh!T'.
I can't, and no one here can comment on the nature of his crime/treason, or if he'll get a minor sentence or death sentence.
He'll definitely be arrested and court martialled for sure, that's a given, can't say about the deliberations or judgement.

Rest assured, he's a criminal.

Now thats strange, you didn't mention anything of this sort in your initial post. However, the brother is right in what he said about the political asylum and him being an Army Officer, it is held as treason. If he has infact entered the country on political asylum and would be returning to Pakistan, there is every possibility that he would be taken into custody. In hindsight, if he had actually taken political asylum, then he needn't worry about anything because this would go in favor for his appeal!

Excellent news your still single!

Jokes aside what sort of a sick person is he that although she is divorced, he is still after the poor ladies life, if the lady her self has some close realitives in the army and she approches them with her problem then i am sure she can find somebody humane and kind enough to help her out with her problem INSHALLAH.

Listen to JAG. again LISTEN TO JAG.

and secondly, that guy is not stupid to enter a false defence which is as easy to prove wrong as counting 1 2 3.

And finally, call pakistan army Public relation. they will let you know exactly whats going to happen.

That is the best step to be taken.

There, the best advise did come from PDF (or didn't it?).

She has already applied for Khula, which she has also gotten. But they have a son, and through this base his making her life a hell! He is physically and mentally torturing my friend.

He entered the country through the basis of wife and kid in the spesific country. But now that the khula is done, most probably he must leave the country, so is now trying to apply asyl. He is now saying that he left the country without telling anyone, and that he will be hunged. But what he told his mrs. is that he had resigned.

Well, you seem kind and humane too brother. You help her out too! *grin*

Where do I get the number then? Told you earlier brother, I hardly knwo anyone in pakistan.

tarbela & Shehz, you both are absolutely right. but now to the next question, where do I get the number? :p

ISPR contact numbers:

http://www.ispr.gov.pk/General/contacts.htm

BOB,get on the job rightaway

Kind and humane sounds to me more like an animal lover.
BoB merey haath PS3 haarney wala tha, us sey abhi tak digest nahi hua Spain won the Euro Cup.

I think we need an NRO here the kind which was offered to zardari and co.Army officers who ran away because of one reason or the other have not harmed the nation more than our worthy generals.{ayub,yahya,musharaf}I think an open pardon should be granted to them by Kiyani.It would not harm war efficiency
as present set up of Army does not match with perceived threat anyway.We need real time big changes

There is a difference between being AWOL & absconding with intent never to come back. In war, the punishment is death. In peace it is not death but dishonourable discharge and jail term. However, there being a general lack of accountability in the country, the man in question can always find a "jack" who will bail him out and all will be well for him. However staying in the Army will no longer be an option but that is what the guy wants anyway. I know of many officers who absconded, went abroad and did not return till they were able to cool things back home by using "wasta" and are welcome back ---not in the army---all sins are forgiven. Do you find it starnge? I don't see why. If those who break the country, rob her dry and rape her are forgiven AND invited to rule the same country "AGAIN", what the hell is one individual absconding the Army---the days opf honour and dignity are gone and such things are forgiven---all you need to do is to find the right politician or a general. Absconding "used" to be a serious charge when people of Pakistan believed in honour and dignity; when rulers start to think only of making a quick buck at the country's cost, how do you think the "awam" will behave.

If you go Awol, I know someone who did, then the consequence once you return depends upon your connections and essentially agreeing to what the military court wants, this boils down to about a year's worth of jail time, and the usual "not being able to work for the military" regime.

Ok only reliable info can come from army themselves. so stop confusing the girl. Wife of army off..... call pr of army. there is no other way of knowing official response.

topic is closed before it gets filled with "i think"s and "i know someone"s.