July 17, 2008 (by Asif Shamim) - On Tuesday afternoon one of Israel's F-16s based at Nevatim airbase collapsed on to its belly after the passenger pulled the wrong handle causing the landing gear to retract. No injuries were reported.

The passenger Brigadier General Guy Tzur the head of the IDF training base at Tze'elim has be criticized for his performance after the incident.

Tzur was being shown some of the capabilities of the jet, He was told to pull the lever to open the canopy, but instead , accidentally pulled on the lever which retracted the wheels. According to the air force limited damage was done to the jet.

A senior IDF source said yesterday that, "fortunately, the accident happened after the plane had already landed. If the handle had been pulled during landing, the outcome would have been much more serious."

An air force investigation into the circumstances of the accident will now take place.

Nevatim is home airbase for 116 Sqn 'Defenders of the South' & 140 Sqn 'Golden Eagle' Squadrons. Both flying the F-16A/B block 15 aircraft.

The IDF/AF has a policy in place which allows officers from other branches of the armed forced to ride in fighter jets. After this incident air force chief Ido Nehushtan said this policy will still continue.

Now that guy should train the pilots, next time he has to pull the landing gear he ends up pulling the canopy open.

That was indeed careless

Man and machine......in perfect harmony!!!

Iam wondering about the punishment or penality! Will he be able to pay for the damage? I dont think so!!

He's in big trouble now, thats for sure.

AOA,

In PAF, the base commanders use to fly the aircrafts by himself.

That Israeli Base commander was asked only to open a canopy, our air chief have lead the flypast on 23rd March by flying F-16 all by himself.

This is what we call professionalism.

Befroe that ACM Pervaiz Mehdi Qureshi used to lead the flypast by flying F-16 by himself.

Pakistan Zindabad!!!!

The israeli brigadier was not from the airforce.He was probably from the army.Please read the last line.

An officer who is able to sustain 9.8 Gs is only eligible for the promotion. PAFs air vice marshals give a test on F-7s, F-16s and A-5s to show their skills while they are being chased by serving wing commanders and Group Captains.
Chief of Air Staff, Air Marshal Nur Khan used to fly serveral CAPs and combat raids during 1965 war.

AOA,

Yeah!

AM Noor Khan was flying T37 over chamb when S/L Rafiqui and F/L Imtiaz A Bhatti were shooting down vampires.

In one supply drop mission in Kashmir, there was a chance of C-130 being shot down, Every one got the survival equipment (specially) a pistol for self defence, but he went on that mission bare handed!!!!!!

I think the early CAS of PAF played a superb role in making PAF stronger.

Where did you get this info? Pls don't make things up. All gdp avms have thousands of hrs on various birds so they don't need to be "chased" by some wg/cdr, their is no such thing in paf. it seems you are comparing flying with horse racing. and yes nur khan flew couple of caps, it was a good morale booster for junior pilots.

Huh then what do u think what is the selection criteria of AMs in PAF??? The only officers who are able to fly well are promoted in flying wings and ALL THE ACMs of PAF were from flying wings or asin they were FIGHTER PILOTS!!!

So PAF isnt that dumb which u think. BTW whats your age?? you seem to be a teen? isnt it!

No paf is not dumb but you are making dumb comments such as "PAFs air vice marshals give a test on F-7s, F-16s and A-5s to show their skills while they are being chased by serving wing commanders and Group Captains" that shows that how shallow is your intelligence level. you must have been screened out by issb. weren't you??

Iam wondering that why you are involving ISSB too much. It shows that you were the one screened out soo badly. Any ways.......Bck to the topic.

You are saying like being chased by a junior officer is a crime or any sin. You know how CAS Kaleem was selected as an Air Marshal?? He had 4 F-16 kills in Combat Commanders School where he flew with his junior officers. His victim also includes ACM Tanveer who was the Base Commander of Mushaf AFB at that time.

Well you should first go and meet PAF officers, other wise you will stay dumb and deaf like you are now.
And let me tell you, If any CAS can fly combat missions then flying training missions and evaluating flights dont really mater for the one. People like you think that an Air Chief Marshal just sits on its chair and only does chit chats with foreign deligations. You are wrong buddy, Air Chief Marshal in Pakistan Air Force is not a joke.

so you believe that kaleem had few kills and that is a reason he was chosen as a chief. if that is the case then you are really ignorant of how paf works. sometimes civilians like yourself think that by reading air force material on the web makes them knowledgeable of inner workings of an professional organization.

Your claim really donnot proves those facts wrong.

By the way i was only elaborating those flights which AVMs flew with their juniors. And those 4 kills of F-16s for him were a great achievement in that age and status without any doubt. Kids like you only have the passion for aircrafts thus other facts of an airforce really dont carry any importance for you poeple. And yeah you are saying like you were one of the ACMs of PAF...but sorry to say, stupid and silly people donnot meet the criteria of PAF even as mechanics and you are one of them for sure.

v rule

no matter how hard you try you will still be a civilian and rest of your life you will dream of being in that uniform! a perfect looser!

Awwww poor you. I understand that in the end loosers have nothing except to curse the one who kick their ----!! Any ways tata and end this arguement right here since you are lost with words and your infant mind.

PEACE OUT!!

[quote name='airomerix' post='1068154' date='Jul 20 2008, 05:05 PM']Awwww poor you. I understand that in the end loosers have nothing except to curse the one who kick their ----!! Any ways tata and end this arguement right here since you are lost with words and your infant mind.
no i'm not cursing its a fact! that's why you cant digest it! mr wanna be gdp.
so chill!!

lol hahaha. Now stop spamming this thread and take your wet dreams somewhere else.
thank you.

The topic was Israeli F-16 mishap, and two bros have ended up pulling each other's hairs out!
Lets change the subject > talking of mishaps, I saw a beauty the other day, the footage was from a U.S carrier, the aircraft was an A-6 Intruder on the catapult full throttle ready to be launched, one of the launch crews inadvertently stood up and was sucked into the left intake, the vacum was awesome I mean this guy wasn't dragged in but rather lifted off his feet and swallowed like a rag doll with no part of his body visible. The engine blew up and a six foot flame shot from the exaust. The pilot(s) had no idea what caused the blow out, were quickly signaled to shut down the aircraft, the other crew fearing the worse rushed and pulled out the victim and there he was with some cuts and bruises as if he fell out of a tree but otherwise fine and walked away. At full power those engine fan blades were rotating at thousands RPM, but as luck would have it the carrier crew wear these soft helmets with built in headphones and ear protection etc, as he was pulled in head first, his helmet was sucked off from his head which got trapped in the fanblades and by the time he hit them they were almost motionless. Seeing was beliving and that guy was surely given a second chance!

Yar we are soo emotional some times just to prove we are right ..always ready to pull each other legs !

I wish Air Chief Marshal himself join the PDF

Only he can elaborate the criteria for being selected !

just curious , did ever Indian Air chief lead the Flypast on their independence day or any special day? or any other country except Pakistan !

I can not claim with convicition, but I am positive that PAF has the distinction where the "Boss" virtually leads from the front where as Airchiefs all over the world may be flyers but they certainly don't execute the "Run in" and as for India, I am aware of one occasion where the Airchief fell out of a plane or rather made a para jump to inaugorate Aero India show!

similar incident happened with one of the airman, i believe at kamra when he was sucked into a running f6 and unfortunately he died.

These kind of incidents occur all over, some fatal and others fortunate but rarely caught on the tape.

Yes, it did happen long time ago.

Once a PAFs C-130 was being tested at the ground with full propeller rotation, accidently an airman released the brakes n the C-130 went off with full power and was destroyed by hitting another parked C-130. In this accident 2 C-130s were lost. Iam not sure about human casulties. This incident took place at Chaklala AFB.

AOA,

The real story was that

A C-130 was taxing out for take off, its tyre blew out due to increase in pressure or due to any reason. It went away from the taxi line due to blew up / punctured tyres and collided with the near C130 parked in the flight line.

There were casualties because my teacher's son got shahdat in that accident. He was in that C-130.

Well ive heard that it was being tested at full power. Anyways ill try to confirm it.

I can also recall that the C-130 was being ground tested after an overhall, Flight International carried the picture of the two burnt out Hercules on it's front cover issue covering flight safety.

Yup but rehan is telling something else!

Well this incident occured a decade earlier, perhaps he got his story mixed-up, however it was a major disaster for PAF, with loss of high value lives and equipment.