http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Pak_vio...how/3302422.cms

link from timesofindia.com

lol weird, really weird!!!

I wonder where indian air defence weapons sleeping!

Oh dear, how sad,........never mind!

Stop posting indian crap.

Fali Major, Air Chief, confirming to the reports of airspace violation said, "As usual our operational readiness is in place. They man three or four places in western air command which stretches from Kashmir to Rajasthan. This has been the norm throughout. But, we have not taken extra precautions because we know how these intrusions took place, and why they happened.”

I dont believe this guy.They didnt even scramble MKI's ???

They didnt want to get their MKIs destroyed by F7s in those mountains where the edge of MKI would be minimal.



Edited Later:

On a serious note, It was a 3 plane formation. 2 warplanes providing escort to one " special " plane. Make your own guess. It was done thrice to update some data.

My guess, either the J or the Modified Fokker Recon.
What's your guess?

It Might be a "Patang" Kite test version before next basant and there radar detect and haunt bhindia fali major, Air Chief

In a PAF calender of 2006 there is a painting showing two recon mirages being escorted by F-16s for a mission in Siachin.EW support was given by Falocn D-20.

It could have been the JF-17's being tested out with different Radars in both Air to Air and Air to ground modes being escorted by F-16's.

Well the PAF hasn't denied accusations, and obviously no reaction time for the scramble...........on three occasions!!!!

Way tooooo early to try the JF-17 in a border incursion.

India is just trying to keep the ante up and keep pressure on Pakistan. The whole bombings in India and Afghanistan, all part of a concentrated effort to turn pakistan into a pariah state in the eyes of the international community.

We cant be sure about that ,although i had a wild idea that perhaps it was a J-10 being tested.

Bhai, Kam piya karo. Ajkal ziyada shuruu kardi hay kia? Hahahaha

actually, everyone inside india is well aware of the FACT that recent bombings and scirmish in Kashmir are being done in the centre by the Congress Party in the centre to distract everyone from its weakened position in the centre.


So no worries there, except, hopefully we won't have to sacrifise our soliders (kashmir) or even theirs because the politicans think everything is fair game to keep themselves in power.

Yaar even if, its still makes Pakistan look bad. And if its true that our soldiers were killed, we cant stand for it. THey need to shown that Pakistani lives aren't pawns for their political game.

Dont matter if it looks good or bad, as long as we're strong, our actions will define it ourselves. Not some media bullshit.

on one hand you take pride in paf and other you are saying stop posting something that was bravely done by them. don't bother about the source focus on pafs capability

Lol man it aint a sin to use your imagination but all jokes aside i dont think they were F-16's doesnt make any sense but i seriously believe they definately must have been JF-17 since China has shipped two different sets of radars being domestically built if my memory serves me well one was a downsized version of the J-10's radar i think KJL-3 or 7 i cant remember correctly another was a new chinese radar besides the KJL series and then PAF has also given a nod for the RC-400.

I have been hearing some interesting rumors about the RC-400 since many believe these them selves are being further more modified and enhanced on PAF's request but lets see how far this news turns out to be true.

My conclusion/opinion is it was most definately Thunder being tested with different radars on different ocassions.

New toys being tested on enemy turf ehh? what could have happened incase of a scramble by IAF?

I think it was the F16 (The new ones possibly?) or our Mirage Recons? Or maybe both since the combo was 3 when detected.

JF17, have a long way to go before they become 100% battle ready.

Then it would've been a real test.

Intruding into airspace doesn't mean they were flying over New Delhi. Few miles into Indian territory amounts to a few seconds of flight time. I don't believe any such incident would have been a threat to any military or strategic installations. And for all you know, the IAF may have scrambled fighters but again unless the PAF aircraft had penetrated sufficiently deep into Indian airspace(and the IAF claims they hadn't), an engagement would have been unlikely.

Also the possibility of a recon or 'special' flight is low since the first option for any intelligence gathering would have been UAVs instead of regular fighter aircraft.

I love news such like that.... day before that was a border fire at LOC .....in three years a new KARGIL ?

It's all propaganda.
They're trying to lie to the world that there was an incursion at the LOC, and Pakistan is showing unecessary aggressiveness by violating air space with 3 military jets.

Typical bullsh*t by TOI.

Who knows

[quote name='namec' date='Jul 31 2008, 02:31 AM' post='1070372']
Intruding into airspace doesn't mean they were flying over New Delhi. Few miles into Indian territory amounts to a few seconds of flight time. I don't believe any such incident would have been a threat to any military or strategic installations. And for all you know, the IAF may have scrambled fighters but again unless the PAF aircraft had penetrated sufficiently deep into Indian airspace(and the IAF claims they hadn't), an engagement would have been unlikely.

Also the possibility of a recon or 'special' flight is low since the first option for any intelligence gathering would have been UAVs instead of regular fighter aircraft.
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In this day and age, it's worth mentioning that aircraft can launch stand-off weapons while staying well clear of harems way!

Are you saying that in India, UAVs are considered as War planes becasue that is the word Indian Airfroce Chief used unless offcourse the bhangee dont know the difference between a UAV and a Warplane ?

Or was it just your assumption from behind like always that is was a UAV and not a warplane ?



So which one ?

Intruding into airspace doesn't mean they were flying over New Delhi. Few miles into Indian territory amounts to a few seconds of flight time. I don't believe any such incident would have been a threat to any military or strategic installations. And for all you know, the IAF may have scrambled fighters but again unless the PAF aircraft had penetrated sufficiently deep into Indian airspace(and the IAF claims they hadn't), an engagement would have been unlikely.

Also the possibility of a recon or 'special' flight is low since the first option for any intelligence gathering would have been UAVs instead of regular fighter aircraft.

First time I had agree with Namec .. It is just the ante against Pakistan which the Hindustan times & TOI want to keep ...

Stand-off weapons have a limited range. Any attack on a major installation(say the Jamnagar refinery) will put the attack aircraft in harm's way.

Once in a while read what you're referring to before shooting your mouth off.

I'll repeat myself for your benefit-

'There probably was no special flight(as someone on this thread suggested) since the first option for reconnaisance would have been UAVs not regular fighters.'

Nowhere have I claimed UAVs entered Indian airspace. That assumption was your mind working in overdrive.

The Babur cruise missile has had it's striking distance increased from 500 to 750 K.M