Hello All!

I have compiled a list of all F-16 aircrafts inducted into the PAF since early eighties. We received Forty (40) aircrafts out of which Eight (08) have been declared Write Off by the PAF officially. Now we have only 32 aircrafts of the eighties era. We had received Two (02) on 13th December 2005 , Two (02) on 10th July 2007, Two (02) on ?? February 2008, Four (04) on 28th June 2008 and Four (04) on 28th July 2008, all OCU models. So, it means we have 32+14=46 aircrafts right now but could have 40+14=54.

I have attached the list of the air crafts for you enthusiast guys. Errors and Omissions accepted.

Does any one have any idea of the missing info of the TWO air crafts delivered in February 2008?

http://rapidshare.com/files/136888803/PAF_F-16s_Database.pdf

Comments Welcome!

# USAF FY/N T/V Local S/N PAF Unit / Date Version
1 81-0899 5G-1 82701 11 Squadron F-16A Block 15E (Write Off)
2 81-0900 5G-2 82702 11 Squadron F-16A Block 15E
3 81-0901 5G-3 83703 11 Squadron F-16A Block 15M
4 81-0902 5G-4 84704 11 Squadron F-16A Block 15M
5 81-0903 5G-5 84705 11 Squadron F-16A Block 15N
6 81-0904 5G-6 84706 38 Tactical Wing F-16A Block 15P
7 81-0905 5G-7 84707 11 Squadron F-16A Block 15E
8 81-0906 5G-8 84708 9 Squadron F-16A Block 15P
9 81-0907 5G-9 84709 11 Squadron F-16A Block 15Q
10 81-0908 5G-10 84710 9 Squadron F-16A Block 15Q
11 81-0909 5G-11 84711 38 Tactical Wing F-16A Block 15Q
12 81-0910 5G-12 84712 38 Tactical Wing F-16A Block 15Q (Write Off)
13 81-0911 5G-13 84713 9 Squadron F-16A Block 15Q
14 81-0912 5G-14 84714 9 Squadron F-16A Block 15R
15 81-0913 5G-15 84715 9 Squadron F-16A Block 15R
16 81-0914 5G-16 84716 38 Tactical Wing F-16A Block 15R
17 81-0915 5G-17 84717 38 Tactical Wing F-16A Block 15R
18 81-0916 5G-18 84718 38 Tactical Wing F-16A Block 15R
19 81-0917 5G-19 84719 9 Squadron F-16A Block 15S
20 81-0918 5G-20 85720 14 Squadron F-16A Block 15S (Write Off)
21 81-0919 5G-21 85721 14 Squadron F-16A Block 15S (Write Off)
22 81-0920 5G-22 85722 11 Squadron F-16A Block 15S
23 81-0921 5G-23 85723 38 Tactical Wing F-16A Block 15T (Write Off)
24 81-0922 5G-24 85724 9 Squadron F-16A Block 15T
25 81-0923 5G-25 85725 14 Squadron F-16A Block 15T (Write Off)
26 81-0924 5G-26 85726 38 Tactical Wing F-16A Block 15U
27 81-0925 5G-27 85727 38 Tactical Wing F-16A Block 15U
28 81-0926 5G-28 85728 38 Tactical Wing F-16A Block 15U
29 81-0931 5H-1 82601 11 Squadron F-16B Block 15D
30 81-0932 5H-2 82602 38 Tactical Wing F-16B Block 15D
31 81-0933 5H-3 82603 38 Tactical Wing F-16B Block 15E
32 81-0934 5H-4 82604 11 Squadron F-16B Block 15E
33 81-0935 5H-5 82605 38 Tactical Wing F-16B Block 15M
34 81-0936 5H-6 84606 9 Squadron F-16B Block 15M
35 81-0937 5H-7 84607 38 Tactical Wing F-16B Block 15N (Write Off)
36 81-0938 5H-8 84608 9 Squadron F-16B Block 15N
37 81-1504 5H-9 85609 38 Tactical Wing F-16B Block 15U (Write Off)
38 81-1505 5H-10 85610 9 Squadron F-16B Block 15V
39 81-1506 5H-11 85611 38 Tactical Wing F-16B Block 15V
40 81-1507 5H-12 85612 38 Tactical Wing F-16B Block 15V
41 90-0948 DH-1 90613 10th July 2007 F-16B Block 15AM OCU
42 90-0949 DH-2 90614 28th June 2008 F-16B Block 15AM OCU
43 90-0950 DH-3 90615 28th June 2008 F-16B Block 15AM OCU
44 90-0951 DH-4 90616 10th July 2007 F-16B Block 15AM OCU
45 90-0952 DH-5 90617 28th June 2008 F-16B Block 15AM OCU
46 92-0452 DH-6 92618 28th July 2008 F-16B Block 15AQ OCU
47 92-0453 DH-7 92619 28th July 2008 F-16B Block 15AR OCU
48 92-0454 DH-8 92620 28th July 2008 F-16B Block 15AR OCU
49 92-0455 DH-9 92621 28th June 2008 F-16B Block 15AR OCU
50 92-0405 DG-8 92729 13th December 2005 F-16A Block 15AQ OCU
51 92-0406 DG-9 92730 13th December 2005 F-16A Block 15AQ OCU
52 92-0457 DH-11 92623 28th July 2008 F-16B Block 15AS OCU
53 ??????? ????? ????? ??th February 2008 F-16? Block 15?? OCU
54 ??????? ????? ????? ??th February 2008 F-16? Block 15?? OCU

32+14=46

Sorry point taken I actually meant 40+14=52 but due to 08 aircrafts being declared write off the total strength now is 32+14=46. Thanks for the correction.

Of the 8 aircraft "written off" in different circumstances, I have details on 4>

1: F-16A, lost to a stray missile while combating Afghan/Soviet aircrafts.
2: F-16B, hit a wild boar during take-off on Sarghoda runway.
3: F-16A, crashed due to pilot disorientation.
4: F-16A, flew into the ground while conducting highly classified manouvres during the night.

Apart from these, four other were lost at some point but none the less it represents PAF's proficency and professionalism that in over 25 years of operating the F-16, even in combat, it only lost 8 aircraft which in fact is less than one in every three years and whats more they weren't all lost due to technical faults!
Compare this with say the Jaguars in the Indian airforce, it was inducted around the same time as the F-16s in PAF, the Jaguars are twin engine aircraft meaning extra safety and they never for once fired in anger, still to date, the IAF has lost around 30 of these aircrafts.

So PAF had an attrition of 8 out of 40 or 20% for F-16's. Compare this to 30 Jaguars lost from a total of 136 (154-18) planes inducted till date gives an attrition rate of 22%. Jaguar is a primary a bomber which practices low level ground hugging maneuvers regularly which is prone to accidents as the pilot gets very little time to recover in case of a spin, stall or flame out. A similar attrition rate can been seen for Mirage-2000's and MIG-29's

It is the older MIG-21's which has been the Achilles heel of the IAF.

On a positive side, IAF has been operating the SU-30's for the last 11 years with a current inventory of over 80 planes without a single aircraft lost till date.

The percentage simply doesn't work with numbers inducted, the sortie level has to be taken into account, in any case comparing the attrition with other Jaguar operators will give you even more depressing picture. Even the Harrier in Indian navy has been reduced to 50% of it's induction quantity.
As for others, you need to distinguish the number of flying hours they accumalate!!

For God's sake guys I have dared to open this very thread to find out the information about the two missing aircrafts delivered in February 2008. I don't know the exact date and the tail numbers of the aircrafts. All of a sudden this thread has been hijacked by the people mad about India bashing? If you really want to help then please stick to the topic and help me out to find the missing info. Thanks and much appreciate. Peace.

No body is hijacking your precious thread, I was merely giving a contrast with fact and figures!

Mark Sien, BoB, Viper, Top Gun, etc. etc.

Where the hell are you guys? Won't you bother to add something here? Oh come on guys!

Salam Haroon,
we have 46 vipers out of which 2 of them are abroad for MLU today the congress passed something like 116 million US dollars for the MLU upgrade, PAF is talking with the USN for the 14 F-16A/B they have if they dont come through PAF would have the option to purchase 28 surplus F-16C/D block40 from the USAF and also MLU them and put them into service as i have heard PAF is also very likely to go ahead with the option of 18 new F-16C/D block52+ as i have heard, PAF would also likely order Aim-9x with this order as well.

So in reality the are two options.

14 F-16A/B MLU + 46 F-16A/B MLU + 18 F-16C/D block52+ (on order) with an option of 18 more bringing the total to 96.

or

28 F-16C/Dblock40 MLU + 46 F-16A/B MLU + 18 F-16C/D block52+ (on order) with an option of 18 more bringing the total to 110 F-16's which were originally planed.

I have feeling option 2 is more likely to take place.

Regards,

BoB.

F-16 block C/D 40 ?? where did u get that from?

and as far as the F-16s are concern... 2 might had been given to Cina to unwind and reverse engineering!!!?? rest of two may also have met their fate in training excercise or close manuvers .. so case is solved... forum is closed... u can sleep now...

Bro this would only happen if the USN doesnt release the 14 F-16A/B they have with them then PAF would go for some old F-16block40 in the USAF hopefully looking airframe that are in moderate condition and hopefully dont have too much wear and tear on their bodies i.e airframe.

So when do we receive the rest of the F16 A/B?

Is F16 blk 52 coming in 2010?

Thanks HAROON RASOOL for opening this thread it was about time someone cleared up what was going on.

Guys I had opened this thread to find out the information about the Two (02) F-16s Block 15 OCU delivered on ?? February 2008. But so far no one has supplied any info about it. I appreciate that you are contributing some info with all of us. But the main question remains What are the tail numbers of the TWO F-16s Block 15 OCU which have already been delivered on ?? February 2008?

And I also know that our two F-16s are in the US for the MLU process which would take about 10 months maximum according to my source of info. but it could be less.
The F-16s in the US for the MLU process probably are:

81-0933 5H-3 82603 38 Tactical Wing F-16B Block 15E
81-0911 5G-13 84713 9 Squadron F-16A Block 15Q

These F-16s landed at Lajes Field, The Azores on 11th January 2008
http://www.azoresairphotos.com/foto.php?codfoto=5046

According to PAF, only a single viper was transferred which crashed into a wild boar and was written off the same day.

Transferred to whom? China? Pakistan has always denied such intelligence reports. If yes then why not share with us any web or media link?

F16 has never been transfered to China this is a widely advertised myth that some people still belive today.

China probably has had a good look at the F16.