http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=70...69386&hl=en

Then people say things against Zaid Hamid...

Can you sum up some of the key points inshallah?

Not everyone will watch the 1 hour 46 minutes, also is it credible?

So much for that


Right now ........... KASHMIR BANE GA PAKISTAN!!!

Inshallah...

The guy talks about the map which was made by Bernard Lewis and one other guy and if you look at the events; you will see how we are marching towards the same...

Balochistan ki baat ki hoi hay... If you guys can spare the time... to dekhain...

PZ : & why do you think Gen. Musharaff was clipped by US help ! Why Zardari was having meetings inside US embassy !

You will see with more corruption the Taleban will become more & more aggressive .. Of course I hope PA holds it's fort.

PZ, can you please tell the time where he starts to talk about Pakistan? 1 hr 46 mins of bullshit is too much to bear.

Besides, you can't compare a 23 year old journalist cum researcher cum musician guy trying to preach on Googlevideo with someone who on a national channel incites his countrymen using religous texts, shamelessly professes his childhood dream of conquering his neighbour, supports the Taliban who're fighting Pakistan army and deliberately choses to be delusional about the country's real problems.

Shoaib mian; u're confusing Shahid Masood with Zaid Hamid...

One comments about signs of the hereafter (Very questionably); the other is talking about the present and what is actually happening around us...

Please let me know which fact from this guy's video is false... Zaid Hamid says the same thing...

PZ, I think I know who Zaid Hamid is. He's the guy who can never be wrong. He has supernatural powers. Anyone questioning his views automatically becomes a Hindu Brahmin.

Btw, are you really taking this Daniel Abrahamson seriously? There are hundreds of conspiracy theorists like him. That map of divided Pakistan was funny. Apparently Irani Balochistan and Pakistani Balochistan will unite and attain sovereignity, Afghanistan will take over NWFP, FATA, Northern Areas & Azad Kashmir. Sindh & Punjab will be all that remains of Pakistan.
I'm assuming we've shoved up the nukes up our a$$es by that time.

Son! You really need to have a high potency injection of the history. These things were predicted by the Holy Prophet (PBUH) some 1,400 years ago in general. These guys are talking about these same things in particular to their surroundings. like Zahid Zaid Hamid talks about the same things with reference to Pakistan and the Muslim world while Daniel Abrahamson talks about the same things with reference to the USA and Europe mostly.

I won't brand a person Kafir or Mushrik or Pagan etc. etc. because he does not believes in the teachings of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) and also does not understands the ongoing geo-political situation but I do call him "Literate Stupid" (Parha Likha Jaahil) precisely.

By the way these maps were spotted by a Pakistani delegation to the Pentagon in the 90's before appearing in the American media. So what do you say Mr Shoaib Pervez? Is it a coincidence?

Just because some idiot with a camera says random things it does not mean it's all true.

Tomorrow, someone in US can play a video of Zaid Hamid saying Islam will rule the world and then say Pakistan is trying to attack its neighbors and therefore needs to be de-nuked.

We can also play statements by jihadi leaders who say "BhaRkay jihad key sholoN say Amrika toot tay daykhengay" and then say Pakistani mobs are training to attack America.

At the end of the say, if you are paranoid, you can easily find stuff to get angry about.

Correct.

And, if you know your history, let's not forget what the IJI (the Islami Jamhoor Ittehad--funded and organized by ISI for sure and perhaps even Al-Qaida, may be) said in the 1988 election campain: We will put the green flag of Pakistan on Delhi's Red Fort! Yes, some of these are our main-stream politicians. They are not living in some caves. And Pakistan was not as radicalized as it is now.

That is the map proposed by Bernard Lewis

http://www.daanspeak.com/BernardLewisMap.JPG


This is the map proposed by Ralph Peters

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7..._to_Mideast.jpg


Pata hay kuch nahin; batain kernay key sher... Suggest you google both and find out where and why these maps were drawn up...

Not Random...

Point out --anything-- in the video and tell me if its not backed up...

This idea is been around for for almost for 40 years, nothing new about it.What is new is that traitors(politicians) within are more inclined today to serve there masters

Shoaib Pervaiz
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Just have a look

http://polidics.com/cia/how-to-scare-the-s...g.html#comments

OMG! Can't believe that....Even BBC is a conspirator

You tell me if it is not okay for anyone who sees statements by Zaid Hamid and jihadi groups and decide that Pakistan is an aggressive state out to destroy others?

I'm not playing games PZ bhai, but you saw that video and concluded that American government's top goal is to redraw our boundaries. That is simply not backed up by available evidence.

How is it not backed up by evidence??

The suicide bombing that happened outside of the POF is evidence... The BLA operations are evidence... The Indian presence and operations in Afghanistan is evidence...

The involvement of the northern alliance and kabul govt in the waziristan problem is evidence...

Aur kia chahtey hain?? Its staring you in the face... Aankhain kholain...

Informative documentary that one. Interesting to see Zawahiri during the times of Sadat. Felt like watching a successful moviestar's old video from his struggling days.

POF blast was done by the Talibans and claimed by them.

Even if everything you say is true, what next? ICBM phaink dein aur sab nuclear holocaust mein shaheed ho jain?

BTW, given the number of Pakistanis arrested from Spain to London for plotting attacks, wouldn't someone like you on the other side say "aankhain kholain"? To add to that jihadi leaders everyday issue blood curdling statements.

It is very easy to blame everything bad on a powerful enemy and say "We are 100% innocent, everything will be alright if CIA/RAW are destroyed"

Is there any practical use?

http://pakistanidefenceforum.com//index.php?showtopic=77729

Who says ICBM phaink dein??

Lets discuss this in a related topic...