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Alhamdulillah!

InshAllah!!! and maybe then we can select prime minister and president from amongst Hurriyat!!!!

wow, things are getting HoT.....

We've got to help, we can't let this opertunity go, but how?

Go on fullscale deplomatic offensive, work in co-operation with huriyat conference and devise a joint strategy with them.

By God if our politicians mess up this chance ......... I wouldn't have words to describe how infuriated I would be!!!

Inshallah!

Gen. Aslam Beg, once commented the only way to liberate Kashmir is to bleed India, hence the proxy war should be increased a degree or two!

Inshallah!

Instant bro thanks for sharing.

Inshallah.

Ameen, sum e ameen !!

InshAllah, TO ALL KASHMIRIS PLEASE KEEP IT UP AND DONT GIVE UP

If God Forbid the Bhangees panic and start to do what the bloody serbians did (even though it IS happening in Kashmir too but not quite at the same scale) and if our useless GHADDARI goverment doesn't do anything I swear to you many Pakistanis including myself will come and help you, even if we have to travel on FOOT

Hindu Banya has no choice, no matter how long the dark night is, morning always comes.

I don't want to dampen the spirits here, but if you look at the bigger picture, this is nothing but a drama. If you look at this from a geo political point of view, then you would know that Pakistan stands at a critical juncture where Musharraf is out and Zardari is bidding to be the president of Pakistan. What better way to vindicate his becoming the President of Pakistan, where he actually plays a role for Kashmiri independence?!!! You gotta know whose what and where is the game plan leading to. Asif Ali 'Ghaddari' is a true ghaddar, he is very much bought up by hindustan and the yanks.

Once Kashmir is in and Zardari, whose unpopularity is very much visible amongst the people of Pakistan (don't believe what the media barks up). He would become an icon for Pakistan, in effect eliminating all possible challengers to his place on the throne, the Presidency of Pakistan. Nawaz Sharif would grind his teeth for this fiasco, because there wouldn't be a soul in Pakistan that would be against Zardari. This popularity would buy Zardari enough time to start doing the real damage to Pakistan. This damage is start privitization of major Pakistani cooperations or resources to hindustani companies.

This way the hindustanis would make inroads into Pakistan and 'Ghaddari' a.k.a Zardari, would make billions and further solidify his hold on power by buying up key figures like Judges, Senators and Army people.

If by any stretch of imagination I am right, then I would request people to look things, not at face value but to see things with greater intuitive insight. Remember, these people along with the zionists are masters of deception.

Diz, Bro is it really you? Don't worry there are other powers in universe who always remain on move to counter any move by evil (You know what i mean). Look at this coalition i don't think PLM-N will vote Zardari as president without restoring judges.... And without Nawaz he cannot even imagine to be president of Pakistan.

As for as Selling assets to Indian companies are concerned....Musharraf was also upto that when CJ cancel his deal on Pakistan steal. I know that Zardari is eying on Thar coal to lease to indian but until he is dependent on PML-N we can still have hope.

Dont raise your hopes too high. You will be disappointed.

But it was surprising to see that an Indian news channel(CNN based in India) is showing all this in India. And amazingly, they did a poll in which 70% of Indians favoured to give Freedom to Kashmiris. That is a good sign indeed.

If we had the previous govt I would have been more comfortable with the situation but right now I dont think the Kashmiris will get any support from this govt. I think they are on their own. Although, the Kasmiris hanisthe support and prayers of 160 million Pakistanis behind them.

At this point in time we should be on an all out offensive, but it seems no one is doing anything, how retarded can our political leadership be?

Moral support and prayers are good, but is only half of what they need. They will need us to go in there ourselves if the GHADDARI govt does nothing and the bhangees start commiting mass genocide to quell the movement. A lot of us need to make a commitment if such a situation arises, to leave our comfortable lives and go fight there. That's the kind of commitment it will take to for us to win Kashmir back, no just sitting here and ranting.

star a petition. does any know how to do it? I mean some really good writing and where to send it???????????????

India is a vibrant democracy, where freedom of rights including press are rewarded, and of course with its biases, and the government has done amazing things in the past 60 years (60% poverty to 20% in 60 years is no easy task)

But I appreciate Gandhi and Ambedkar (the latter barely mentioned outside of India) especially for their vision of India. Read about Ambedkar especially his take on Pakistan and discussions with Iqbal, he was the realist Gandhi never was.

Point of the matter is they have a spirit of democracy, as crappy as it might be (BJP, Congree, non-Hindu bias). They can go through two or three different elections without parties taking up arms and controlling different parts of Mumbai. A lot of members are very anti-Indian, even racist, espousing nationalism (haram) against them, but you need to be more realistic, and as many of us are students, more competetive. If your competitor is somehow better than you learn from him, and do better.

Non-violence is the best way. Baba Ghaffar also used it as did our prophet who did not need a sword to capture Mecca from the Jahiliyaat of the Arabs. I honestly do hope Pakistan will use its international channels to expound the issue.

I just cant believe this. Just when you think things are calming down, these morons (those supporting the temple) are fighting over 100 acre land and are puting the entire JK in jeopardy. They are offering a tremendous opportunity to the separatists. Luckily for us the separatists will squander this opportunity (read 'infighting') as they normally do, Musharaff is busy playing tennis and listening to romantic songs, and NS and AZ have more important things on their hands. Kashmir is too mundane for them.

For the next couple of years, we will see violence.. many innocent lives will be lost.. and then everything will be back to normal.. Nothing changes, however some people may wish. Its so unfortunate that this keeps repeating in cycles.

Indian democracy is nothing more than a Grand Sham!

Ayodya
Mumbai Riots
Muslims can't property
Why is Modi still CM?
What about daily caste oriented genocide?
What about the fact that 700 million don't have access to a toilet?
An elite class that is unaware of any oneelse, a middle class who pretends the lower class dosen't exist
10~25 armed insurgencies ... nagaland to name just one

I can provide the links if you want!


Pakistan w/ or w/o Democracy is a thousand times better than India on any given day

he he he........after all, Advani is a Pakistani..........

If Indian democracy is Grand Sham, I am not sure what you would call Pakistani Democracy.

Yes, ours is not perfect. But to create a democratic system for a country as diverse as ours wasn't easy. You are only looking at the negatives. Try to look at the positives, then you wil understand how far the democratic system has come. If people like Mayawati (a Dalit), Lallu Prasad Yadav (a spepherd), Chandra babu naidu (coming from a lower middle class family) are aspiring to become the PM after the next elections, it says that we have covered some distance.

Pakistani democracy is also quite a scam or curtain on people's eyes ... but...electing the likes of Modi, someone who should be facing ICC not getting the CM seat speaks tons of the indian scam.

the fact that you associate their casts, with their PM ambition ... alone speaks volumes of the grand scam called world's largest democracy.

Not sure what you meant about ICC etc.. I will pass it on.

Caste is a fact of life in India, in case, you are not aware of..lol These leaders thrive based on their castes. They were once suppressed. Today they are the king makers. I dont see common men and women asserting themselves, atleast politically, in Pakistan.

Democracy where criminals and murderers are elected is not something to be proud of.

Atleast in Pakistan murderers are not given a seat in Parliament let alone become Chief Ministers.

Its better to be ruled by a dictator than having a fascist democratic government ruling under the garb of democracy.

Modi was never trialed, but India held elections and BJP got its ass kicked in Gujrat.

Democracy is the Indian way, and contrary to popular belief, most Biharis and Assamese want to stay with India.

Kashmir, I could not say the same, in fact 99% of Kashmiris want to seperate from India (whether they want to be Indepndent or Pakistani is another question). If you watch the youtube video, you can really see the intelligent debate the Indians have compared to the shitt, and lack of longterm forthought ARY and GEO put out. India is coming to terms with the fact it can't keep soldiers in Kashmir forever, it is in India's self interest, and mutual interest to see a plebliscite in kashmir. and contrary to the stab you are trying to make it, it shows India's democratic success and courage in making such a choice.

Also where are the Pakistani Sikhs, Hindus and Christians. Just cause we got rid of all of them in 47 it doesn't mean we don't have our No reason to make this an anti-Indian thread.

For years our Jilandari Islami Dictator (Zia) use weapons that were suppose to go to the mujahideen(none of whom fought for Islam) in Afghanistan, to fund insurgency in Kashmir, which caused more baklash against Pakistan and suffering for the Kashmiris, unconstitutionally. Look at this program, they asked the question of the constitution being shredded when India comes to Kashmir, our constitution is nothing more than a piece of paper to our mirage of democratic institutions. The question is how can you shoot unarmed crowds? You lose face.

They are using Gandhi to achieve Gandhi's Kashmir, the will of the Kashmiri people through non-violence.

Does that mean India isn't poor, hasn't committed zulm? Absolutely not, no one is excused, and I think India has a long way to reach the likes of the US, but their strength is ideal is oustanding.

Like I said we need to learn from even our enemies (if you consider them that)

Live and let live. Ma'salam

This is quite rich. Wasn't Zardari/Benazir blamed for the death of Benazir's bro? Benazir was a PM and Zardari could one day be ur president.

Wasn't Z. Bhutto (PM) hanged to death by Zia on murder charges? If Bhutto was innocent, then wont that make Zia a murderer.

Like I gave the misaal of the prophet who used non-violence to gain Mecca, and Hazrat Issa (RA) who had false accusations put against him by Pontius Pilate, non-violence is the best way.

If the Kashmiris can do this, so will the rest of the Muslim world. It is rogue agencies who have a history of false flag operations like the CIA, Mossad, RAW who create their own bombs and give them to brainwashed extremists, in order to legitimize their military presence in a region. It is not in our interest at all to torture or suicide bomb our own people.

Operation Blue Star?

how about afghanistan and waziristan. one day waziris and mehsuds are going to kashmir to fight for pakistan another they are fighting pak fauj?

amerika wants a reason to get rid of Pakistan's nukes it needs an excuse.

Actually in the defence of Waziris and Mehsuds, they to date, have not asked for succession.

However, mate, the Gun point beard and bruke ideology ... sucide bombs as an ideological weapon are unacceptable. and we even tried to make peace deals with them, much more than once. How many in operation blue star?

also, in my mind waziris and mehshuds have been to some extent teh collateral damange in the fight against foreigners.

And one cannot deny that there are enough tajiks, uzbeks, persians, arabs that are hurting us more than our own men.

Kashmiris khood march ker rehey hain towards freedom...

India cant blame us for cross border terrorism... Banyay ki aisi ki tesi...

India has stimulated Kashmiries to go for Chenab formula.

They can murder their own brethren, but they in no way commit genocide which Modi and the likes have their hands full of.

Bhutto was hanged by the judiciary. He went through a trial (albeit biased).

And since when did Zardari get a seat in the parliament.

70 percent Indians voted to give Kashmir azadi. Yeah right. I'm guessing everyone from the valley with a phone voted multiple times. We need to understand the Indian psyche. The intellectuals amongst the Indians have always accepted that Kashmir doesn't belong to India. The common Indian masses are beginning to realise the same now. But its too much of an ego issue for them to accept this publically. Their myth that the freedom struggle is only a Pakistani sponsored attack on Hinduism is slowly being torn apart. The Kashmiris are speaking for themselves. This movement needs to be a non-violent one. If Pakistan tries to renew the Jihad, Indians will clamp it overnight, and common masses in India will go back to believing their myth. If Kashmiris take up the gun again, Indian media won't potray them an oppressed people like they're doing now. Even Syed Ali Shah Geelani endorsed this view when he asked his followers to retain their 'mazloomiat'.

A part of me also believes all these editorials in English newspapers and news channels in India is their way of preparing their common masses for a Chenab type formula. But mark my words, India will never hold a peblicite. Letting the valley free to form some sort of an autonomous alliance with Azad Kashmir is as far as they will go. Anything more will be too much too bear for the Indian and Hindu psyche. Jammu and Ladakh stay with India. The Indian intellectuals might also be worried that Indian muslims might face the brunt of Hindu anger if the Valley is let go. They don't want a Gujarat genocide multiplied by 28 in evey state of India. 'Educating' the masses is their way to prevent that.

Oh my God, let Kashmir join either their own way or Pakistan !

I am pretty sure that there are many that wants to track their families, especially track them back in time and see where they lived etc.

Imagine what couldn't happen with Kashmir issue resolved!

My short answer

As a Kashmiri, I don't care what the Indians think.

If we have a choice between the "economic superpower, worlds greatest democracy" - India and Pakistan - "the failed state, international hub of terrorism"

We will always choose Pakistan, because we know the reality of Pakistan and not the propaganda.

For a thousand years to come, the kashmir people will remember how the ordinary Pakistans people reacted when there was a earthquake in Kashmir and the apathy of the Indian people.


Kashmir quake - do Indians care?

By Jill McGivering
BBC News, Delhi


Two major aid agencies in India have told the BBC they have seen a significantly smaller initial response so far from the Indian public to the recent devastating earthquake in Kashmir.


The initial response to the recent earthquake has been small
They say the public response to the quake has been much smaller than to other recent disasters such as the tsunami last year and the Gujarat earthquake in 2001.
In the aftermath of the Asian tsunami and the Gujarat earthquake, there were widespread reports in India of an outpouring of public support.
It ranged from personal donations to volunteers heading for affected areas to give practical support.

'Indifference'

Since news broke of the Kashmir earthquake, the public response within India has been more subdued.
A spokesman for Oxfam in India, PJ Chacko, told the BBC that after the tsunami he received hundreds of phone calls offering help.

Since this earthquake, he's only had about 10, he said. Unsolicited donations to Oxfam after the tsunami reached about a hundred thousand dollars in the first few weeks, he added.

"Assistance was pouring in like anything," he said. "But this time, it's not attracting that much."

The head of the International Federation for Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies in India, Azmat Ulla, had a similar story.

"During the tsunami, I saw people coming into our headquarters handing over cheques," he said. "But [this time] I haven't really seen it."

On Tuesday, a separatist leader in Srinagar, Mirwaiz Umar Farooq, said he was upset by what he described as "indifference" in India to the earthquake.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4338614.stm

1) Your language is disgusting considering I put out how Indian democracy is truly the victor at the end of day, a sort of example for Pakistanis to follow. It is a wonder how many idiots the mods allow on this site. Regardless of your viewpoints, respect should be taken in discussion, your first like isn't respectful.
2. Unlike Assam, Mizoram, Bihar, in Kashmir 99.99% of Kashmiris do not want to be with India. My roomate is from Srinagar, and he doesn't want Kashmir to join Pakistan, he wants it to be independent. Whether they want to join Pakistan, or become independent is one issue, the issue we are discussing is whether they want to be part of India, and its no.

Look at it from two vantage points.
1. Self-interest. Is it in India's secular democratic interest to continually open the Hindu Muslim rift within and without India due to the Kashmir conflict and what Muslims from Hyderabad, Marashtra, Delhi, and Gujarat feel like is the Hindu majority opressing the Muslim minority. We need to get rid of this communalism, India needs to lead the way, not only have some of India's brightest intellectuals spoken, but the masses have as well.

Why should India keep such a large contingent of its forces in a place that simply doesn't want them to be there, waste of money, waste of time, waste of lives.

2. Mutual interest.
a. Good relationship with neighbors, China, Pakistan, even Bangladesh as the Hindu Muslim rift has grown in the past decade immensely due to ilelgal Bangladeshis as well as Hindu-Muslim conflicts within Bangladesh.
b.Another point of mutual interest is trade. From Casablanca to Calcutta, the only major trade barrier that are stopping all of Asia from practically becoming a free trade zoneis the Pak-Indo border.

Consider these factors, and push it against trying to mantain control in an area where the population hates your government. It's simply not worth it for India.
Dialogue Dialogue Dialogue has solved nothing. BJP is saying dialogue, seperatists are saying OK. Let's take it to the referendum polls.

No Pakistan or India, let the Kashmiris decide. People are just sick of this shitt.

India, Pakistan, and Kashmir need to start focusing on more pressing problems, like corruption, education, living standard. We have delayed these things for so long thinking we could keep pushing it off, afterall one could usually afford to eat three times a day, even if barely, but the fact of the matter is due to a scarcity of resources we no longer have such an oppurtunity.


Best. And please keep good akhlaq when talking.

ooo god ... more horse manure on indian scam ala democracy.

I am Kashmiri .... and there is one thing I can tell anyone .... no nation can be held in slavery by force .... for ever .... this is a law of NATURE!

I agree... but for a new nation to be born, you need some favorable circumstances. I dont see them yet. Hopefully I will never see them.

For those of you who remember. things were much worse in kashmir in 1980s. That was an opportunity that the separatists should have seized with both hands but they failed. That was the time we made blunders not just in J&K, but also in other places like Punjab, Nagaland, Mizoram, Assam, Gorkhaland, Tamil Nadu( wrt Sri Lankan tamil issues). All these regions were simmering with anger against the Indian govt. Our economy wasn't in great shape either. We almost defaulted on our loan payments in 1990/91. On the diplomatic level, our all weather friend 'USSR' was disintegrating. And you had a much better strategist in Zia Ul haq at that time. In spite of all these factors, we could ride over those times.

Today our situation is much better. Most of the places I mentioned earlier are stable and taking advantage of the economic opportunities. Our economy is in much better shape. Pakistan is in political mess and will continue for some time. On the international front, our relations with major countries are better. And no major power would support another independent country in this region as it would only add more instability. Time is not ripe yet for Kashmir. Hopefully we learn from our recent mistakes and try to integrate Kashmir more with rest of the country.

Well I agree with u that non-violence is the best way but with India it wont work. Time and time again Pakistan had asked India to honor the UN resolution on Kashmir but they have refused.Instead they have raped thousands of Kashmiri women, killed thousands of men and continue to do so. Before we can actually sit with someone and talk peace shouldnt that someone show that they are ready for peace. Killing muslim men and raping muslim women does not show that. The hindus are frustrated that after years of committing atrocities on the Kashmiris, the resolve of the people have not waivered.

I dont know how democratic India is, all I know is that it is not secular as it claims. If you dont believe me go and ask the survivors of Babri Masjid or the Gujarat massacre. They will probably argue better than me. All I can say is that this present govt of ours will not do anything much to help our Kashmiris brothers and sisters.Infact this govt will freeze talks on Kashmir and will want to improve relations with India.

Bosnia, Kosovo under Serbia got independence in lesser favourable conditions.

The people of J&K (majority of them), after 60 years of India's rule still havent integrated with India speaks for itself. And the hatred is only increasing. Look at the placards of protestors when they come out on strike. 'Kashmir banega Pakistan'. While the Indian army continues firing real bullets and systematically kills its leaders, it gives a show of being a democratic force, a hypocrisy every Kashmiri realizes.

I dont see J&K becoming independent as yet, but she's inching towards that goal. The J&K themselves realize that an independent country would not be viable and therefore would prefer amalgamating with Pakistan. The Indians sometimes are led into a false sense of security that why would they amalgamate with a country which is not very economically strong as India? Maybe they try to close their eyes to reason or are just too oblivious of the fact that they stand together under the banner of Islam. Not to mention the generation of cultural links they've had with Pakistan. As for the minority Kashmiris who thought India would accept them, have been proved wrong (temple land issue).

Hello manimgoindowndown,
I did use a word "Org...", which was probably considered disgusting. It was used dispassionately as an analogy, and there is nothing disgusting about the word. I am not using expletives to describe any people, but tried to give an analogy of the psychological experience when Pakistanis observe discontent in the Valley. It just means one gets 'excited' in the extreme. Kashmiris who feel discomfort and pained during the times of discontent in the Valley is a different matter. It was simply my observation.

As far as Kashmiris are concerned, in India, they have the all the Freedoms guaranteed by the Indian Constitution. Secession is not one of them. 95% of all Indians seem to be more than satisfied with those guarantees of freedoms and rights and are in fact proud of them and use them and even abuse them. 5% of the People are not there as yet. India is not in a hurry. Those people will get there in their own time. The Kashmiris can stay in Indian Kashmir with all those rights or they can move to any place in the world which they feel is more conducive to their personal fulfillment. If they feel like living in Pakistan, it is their free choice. Pakistanis have shown to be hospitable to Kashmiris so there is nothing wrong with that.

In one aspect, India has always tried to treat Kashmiris in good faith. India has never tried to change the demographical complexion of the Kashmir Valley. It is not as if there is a scarcity of people in India for doing that. The Chinese have totally changed Tibet and Xinjiang demographically. They have been less hesitant in their demographic planning. India too could have done so, but that is not how India works. In fact it was the Islamists in Kashmir who forced the Hindu Kashmiris out of the Valley.

In my earlier post, I was merely pointing out that there is no way India would yield Kashmir. Do you expect a Govt. of India to just say bye bye to Kashmir, and that the people would keep quite? No Govt. can do that. The truth is that, how Kashmiris feel about seceding from India, doesn't play any role at all. Kashmiris were Hindus and Buddhists before they converted to Islam. Kashmir was an integral part of the greater Indian cultural sphere even before it became a part of modern India. That is a fact, the rest of Indians will not forget. Kashmir is of strategic value to Indian interests. That will also not change.

It is not a question of who is right or who is wrong. The Indian side has just as many arguments for keeping Kashmir as the Kashmiri side or the Pakistani side has in changing the status quo. In a straight debate neither side will win as neither side would accept the arguments of the other.

The question is: Is it possible to snatch Kashmir away from Republic of India? There are some Pakistanis and disaffected Kashmiris who feel it is possible. Others have learnt it the hard way, that it is not so. Musharraf became much wiser in his later years after his experience with Kargil.

In my previous post, which seems to have been deleted, I said that the international situation as well as the difference in state power between India and Pakistan has changed to the disadvantage of Pakistan in the last decade, and any hopes and ambitions Pakistanis may have entertained in the past have become even more distant.

Of course Pakistan is free to continue on this path of conflict with India. It is Pakistan's sovereign choice, and I can understand that there is confusion, because the Pakistani heart on hearing the eloquence of the Jihadis wants to continue with the struggle and conflict, while the head on hearing the words of reason by objective analysts wants to curse the state's impotence and make corrections from a disastrous path.

One cannot run away from reality and reason for long. One cannot shut out one's head. The only chance one has, is to make one's heart follow new dreams and new opportunities.

What you say about economic opportunities is correct. However for India it is far more advantageous that Bangladesh allow transit facility for India's North-Eastern states than, a transit through Pakistan. India is getting access to Central Asia through Arabian Sea, through Iran, through Russia and soon through Turkey also. Maybe one day, even through China. Indians have learned to overcome the hurdles of the Indo-Pak border. Moreover India is moving to a knowledge based economy and high value industrial goods, and a land route through Pakistan is not a life and death issue anymore.

I think, many Pakistanis perhaps have not noticed that the people who are rising in the world, who are achieving higher standards of living, who are becoming more self-confident are the ones who pay more interest to their economy and are less enamored by the eloquence of Jihad. In the world, what matters is Monopoly, whereas the Game of Risk is only for time-pass.

Tibet, East Turkestan, American Natives, Basqueland, .....

I stopped reading from here.

Does the Indian constitution give the Kashmiri the ultimate freedom to decide who rules them.

No it does not.

So Kashmiri people don't care what it is written in the INDIAN constitution because the Kashmiri people are not Indian, were never Indian and will never be Indian.

India thinks it can force the kashmiris into submission...

Yet we see that the Kashmiris continue their struggle for freedom from oppression... The BJP / RSS / VHP used to say that it was Pakistan which was interfering in Kashmir through infiltrators... Well the infiltrations have stopped...

And the hundreds of thousands of protesters show that the Kashmiri issue is infact an indigenous struggle for the basic human right of self determination...

http://www.dawn.com/2008/08/22/top10.htm

Arundhati slammed for demanding Kashmir’s freedom

By Jawed Naqvi

NEW DELHI, Aug 21: The Indian government on Thursday slammed writer Arundhati Roy for her comments in Srinagar where she reportedly demanded “azadi” for Kashmir during a rally at the UN office.

“It is preposterous for anyone to say so. It deserves to be rejected with contempt,” Minister of State for External Affairs Anand Sharma said.

“We are a constitutional democracy and what is against the constitution has to be strongly condemned. One must remember in our country, there is room for all shades of opinion. But India’s territorial integrity is not negotiable.”

India’s main political parties — the BJP and the Congress party — lashed out at Ms Roy for her comments, of which newspapers circulated several versions. One of them reported that the Booker Prize winner Roy, who was present at the massive Monday rally, said the people of Kashmir had made themselves abundantly clear.

“And if no one is listening then it is because they don’t want to hear. Because this is a referendum. People don’t need anyone to represent them; they are representing themselves. As somebody who has followed people’s movements and who has been in rallies and at the heart or the edge of things, I don’t think you can dispute what you see here,” she was quoted as saying.

She was also quoted as saying that “since the 1930s, there have been debates and disputes about who has the right to represent the Kashmiri people, whether it was Hari Singh or Sheikh Abdullah or someone else. And the debate continues till today whether it is the Hurriyat or some other party.”

Then she added, “But I think today the people have represented themselves.”

Ms Roy apparently concluded thus: “India needs azadi from Kashmir as much as Kashmir needs azadi from India.”

Congress spokesperson Abdhishek Singhvi reacted by saying India would not compromise on an inch of its territorial integrity. “To put it mildly, it is utter nonsense. To provoke people and make such irresponsible statements will not be tolerated.”

BJP spokesman Prakash Javadekar described Ms Roy’s statement as “outrageous”. “This is outrageous. This is against national spirit and nationalism. She is attacking the integrity of the country. This is nothing short of sedition,” he said adding that the country did not approve of her stand.

Ms Roy’s defiant political positions had once landed her in Tihar jail, after she preferred imprisonment in lieu of apologising to the apex court for alleged contempt of court.